Neutrality

[thexdane]

Well, when we as Trykers were enslaved by the Matis, then you sure as hell better believe we will not like them.

Again, the rest of your comments are pathetically ignorant. I am not acting as secretary, I'm acting as the one in charge of decisions and rules and guidelines of the guild Mellodi is in. Her actions are 100% response based on the conclusions made by the guild as far as the lore is concerned, and as guild leader I am responsible for them and their actions.

If you won't leave them alone when I ask nicely, I'll talk to people that can ask a little less than friendly. Please, if you have issues with my guild, you talk to me - the one that wrote out the rules/regulations/allowances/RACE RELATIONS/etc.

- N

actually nono of my comments were ignorant in the least, since they involve ME and who could be more informed about me than well me. but i guess you're a mind reader and know about me and things that happen to me more than i

so i suggest you get a dictionary and learn the definition of ignorant, since i've been informed and knowledgable about what i'm talking about. so i suggest you're the one being ignorant not i

also if i have a problem with a player i take it up with THEM not someone else on their behalf, hence why you're being a secretary. why would i basically go talk to someone's acting secretary if i have no issue with said secretary.

as for your racist beliefs, i'm glad you don't speak for the whole of your people yet again. you at least are owning up to them, melodi however was denying that she even made said comments when two people confronted her about it. we were minding our own business digging away and then we were verbally assulted by one of your guild for no reason at all but hey i guess since something in the past happened it makes it all ok

[neiana]

as for your racist beliefs, i'm glad you don't speak for the whole of your people yet again. you at least are owning up to them, melodi however was denying that she even made said comments when two people confronted her about it. we were minding our own business digging away and then we were verbally assulted by one of your guild for no reason at all but hey i guess since something in the past happened it makes it all ok

This is going to be my last comment (I'm so excited!)

Concerning the Matis, I've met many of them in game who I respect as players - I also know many pro-Karavan that are awesome people overall. I just wanted to make sure that we can separate the character from the player in these situations, as I am sure she (nor I) have anything against you the player.

I (and for the most part, LoT should) have issues with Matis as characters.

- N

[thexdane]

This is going to be my last comment (I'm so excited!)

Concerning the Matis, I've met many of them in game who I respect as players - I also know many pro-Karavan that are awesome people overall. I just wanted to make sure that we can separate the character from the player in these situations, as I am sure she (nor I) have anything against you the player.

I (and for the most part, LoT should) have issues with Matis as characters.

- N

good for you, i'll give you a hero cookie for it

thing is she MADE comments in front of us and then DENIED doing anything wrong using some stupid excuse. if she owned up to doing that i'd honestly have no problem but she's also doing this within the confines of this topic too

so i'm guessing your guild has no honour, glad my life doesn't depend on your nor your guild

[zzeii]

Y'all know they have an in game mail system that would be much more appropriate for this line of posting. Would it not?

[kisedd]

As a player and a character I'm not much fond of this whole enslave the Tyker stuff. If that is going to be the basis of my entire gaming experience, then I"m playing the wrong game. I don't find slavery in any form to be tasteful.

I count several Tyker as my friends, and I'd like to keep it that way. Any player who wants to dance on a thin line of racim and slavery even in an RP sense, is someone who really sadens me.

[neofuzz]

so i'm guessing your guild has no honour, glad my life doesn't depend on your nor your guild

Are you intentionally over-dramatising this whole affair for giggles? Or are you serious? Either way it's hella funny! gj. keep it up.

[xenofur]

As a player and a character I'm not much fond of this whole enslave the Tyker stuff. If that is going to be the basis of my entire gaming experience, then I"m playing the wrong game. I don't find slavery in any form to be tasteful.

I count several Tyker as my friends, and I'd like to keep it that way. Any player who wants to dance on a thin line of racim and slavery even in an RP sense, is someone who really sadens me.

no, it just means you have a goal, convincing your fellow matis to view the tryker like you, as friends
or you could permanently settle down in tryker

our guild has a matis excilant too, and we are fyros, it all just boils down to creative rp

[stormasp]

well i've been following this post and i'm just wondering, there are those who say they are nuetral and wish to protect all homins and wont take sides with the karavan or kami, but which side do u help when there is more than one threat happening like recently, wouldn't you have to decide which side is more important to help, cause u cant be at both places at the same time, and whatever choice u would make wouldn't ppl think u favor one side more than the other or should u even care what other ppl think. i'm just looking at how tough being neutral can actually be, just trying to understand the bigger picture.

next there have been claims of racism, well i would like proof of this i wont take someones word for it and to be honest i think its being thrown around just to hurt that players feelings, and to make them look bad to other players.
this is just wrong and needs to stop. i agree with other post that if they have problem with each other they need to solve it someplace else.

i hope all this fighting, and insults aren't meant towards the real life person, because if a person takes a GAME that serious, its time to stop playing games imo.

hypothetical situation, would like comments on it plz
i use tryker and zorai in my example, ok i know most tryker follow karavan at least i think they do, anyways, if the karavan orderd the trykers to attack the zorai,(to show loyalty to the karavan) and told them if they didn't they would destroy their lands what decision would you make, protect your lands or attack the zorai. i use this example becuase alot of trykers are friends to zorai. so what would u do?

[borg9]

hypothetical situation, would like comments on it plz
i use tryker and zorai in my example, ok i know most tryker follow karavan at least i think they do, anyways, if the karavan orderd the trykers to attack the zorai, and told them if they didn't they would destroy their lands what decision would you make, protect your lands or attack the zorai. i use this example becuase alot of trykers are friends to zorai. so what would u do?

I am a Tryker (Euro server), I trust neither Kami or Karavan. Kami abandon our people, in favour of the Zorai. 'We no longer amused them!'

The Kavaran offered us protection in the 'Great war' and have a more dominant presence in Tryker.

I was born in a land Trykoth, where we are encoraged to follow the Karavan.

In the cute/gibba invasion I fought along side my fellow Trykers, to remove the threat to our lands, not to aid the Karavan.

I still don't beleive the 'propaganda' from either side. I have seen Kami that are not 'fluffy' and am starting to believe that they are also not of Ayts.

The above is so you understand my reasons for the following:

If the Karavan are capable of destorying Trykoth - why would they need the Trykers to destroy Zorai?

The choice you are asking is my family or my friends!

Its difficult one - if it wasn't you would be asking

I believe base only on the info provided (which isn't much). I would defend Tryker from the Karavan.

Should Zorai's invade to 'protect thier lands', I would fight them too.

I guess the only reason I would attack another Ayts people, other than defence, would be if Elias Tryton asked for it. I would argue that this would never happen, as he is the father of Ayts and he would not wish destruction on any of his creation.

[zzeii]

well i've been following this post and i'm just wondering, there are those who say they are nuetral and wish to protect all homins and wont take sides with the karavan or kami, but which side do u help when there is more than one threat happening like recently, wouldn't you have to decide which side is more important to help, cause u cant be at both places at the same time, and whatever choice u would make wouldn't ppl think u favor one side more than the other or should u even care what other ppl think. i'm just looking at how tough being neutral can actually be, just trying to understand the bigger picture.

Having friends amongst all the civilizations, and being of the stance you are describing, I will give my input on this. When this event had gone completely active, I was with my Zorai friends (I am Tryker) exploring what was going on in Bounty Beaches (we had explored The Grove of Umbra the previous day, searching for clues). When the call went out, I told them I would be defending my homelands, since the cutes and gibbai were invading both Zorai and Tryker. They said they understood and were fine with this decision.

next there have been claims of racism, well i would like proof of this i wont take someones word for it and to be honest i think its being thrown around just to hurt that players feelings, and to make them look bad to other players.
this is just wrong and needs to stop. i agree with other post that if they have problem with each other they need to solve it someplace else.

I myself have been called terms such as 'Matis-lover' and such by some tryker, because I had interest in joining a Matis guild. This same person had taken the time to send me a tell saying it was just an RP stance their character was taken. To me, I can deal with it in game because it is their decision, as long as they don't continue it on in region about it. Tells is one thing, around is fine, using region chat for it is a little overboard in an RP aspect. I asked the person to not 'rp' with me over region and they kindly agreed.

i hope all this fighting, and insults aren't meant towards the real life person, because if a person takes a GAME that serious, its time to stop playing games imo.

I agree wholeheartedly on this.

hypothetical situation, would like comments on it plz
i use tryker and zorai in my example, ok i know most tryker follow karavan at least i think they do, anyways, if the karavan orderd the trykers to attack the zorai, and told them if they didn't they would destroy their lands what decision would you make, protect your lands or attack the zorai. i use this example becuase alot of trykers are friends to zorai. so what would u do?

If this were to be the case, I'm sure ALOT of people would, if the option were there, gang up (whether they are tryker, matis, fyros, or zorai) to oppose the Karavan. I know that I myself would personally take lead and get all my friends willing to aid in the defense of the tryker and zorai against those who are against the people of Atys.

Not all situations are going to be easily determined which actions should be taken. It is up to the players to determine how they will act under whatever circumstances are given to them. This is what truly decides how the rest of the server will view them, whether it be friends, enemies, or no comment.

~Zzei