Why are the Official Forums off-limits again?

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Re: Why are the Official Forums off-limits again?

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Ozzie wrote:not to mention that it gives people something to read while they are waiting for their copy to arrive (mine should arrive in Australia in the next year or two).
I can understand not allowing guests to post but guests SHOULD be able to read all the forums!
Agree, read only would be good.

Although the original poster can be assured that there are no terrorism activites being planed via the Official forums!! :)

Just the usual, my games not working as I expected, what race are you, where is the content, and player guide type threads.
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Re: Why are the Official Forums off-limits again?

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This is yet another thread on a subject that has been covered.

We keep the forums closed so the players do not have to read the assorted: Flames, trolls, whines, etc.

The players do read here (when they want to) and they have been helpful. They have posted copies of threads, offered advice, pointed people in the right direction.

But - and this is key... they dont have to wade through all of the noise here to get what they need.

Our entire CM team doesn't have to either. We know who we are supporting. The player community.

So -- the next argument is: Then make them read only.

No.

This would turn into a cut and paste marathon with flames here and things turning into a huge mess.

The amount of time spent cleaning up this one public forum shows we are correct.

The players support us by buying and playing the game. We support them by keeping their signal to noise ratio in check.

You say you don't know about the game, cant get answers etc...

POST YOUR QUESTIONS.

They get answered. Usually by players themselves!

Posting and telling us to open the forums doesn't give you the information you seek. It's not going to happen.


You say we are 'hiding' stuff. I find that funny. Players are free to post here and they often post snips from their forum area. How in the world could we hide anything with so many players? That would require controlling the vast majority of our posters. (who are players)

That would be like trying to herd cats! Impossible and just annoys the cat!

Starting new threads with the same message also won't get you a different answer.

This thread has been all over this issue: http://ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3186#post3186


In closing we know this is an issue with people on both sides. This was thought through carefully and decided upon by many people. (knowing some people would scream)

If I have to make a decision based on the public or our players, I choose providing good service & a sane forum area for our subscribers. That's what it comes down to for me.

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Re: Why are the Official Forums off-limits again?

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Ozzie wrote:I don't agree with your comments Satchi.
We, your potential customers would prefer to be able to read the comments of ALL your posters not just a few.
You have made a mistake in keeping us out of your main forums - read only IS the way to go.
All we can do is try to find other forums like IGN etc to see what is going on - it does not tend to promote a good feeling towards the developers of the game.

I heard you loudly. I understand that you disagree. I also have a mailbox full of comments from players (and a few posts here) who appreciate the support & peace of the forums.

I don't expect to change your mind. I'm not trying to get you to agree. I simply wanted to state clearly (yet one more time) WHY we made the decision.

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Re: Why are the Official Forums off-limits again?

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Ozzie wrote:<edited to decrease the size of the quote>People who are looking for information on the game would appreciate read-only access.
Reading a forum does not affect the other forum users at all.
Take a country like Australia where unless we want to fork out huge dollars to import the game, we may not see the game for many many months yet - maybe we would like to follow the main forum discussions - not posting but just reading.
You say you want information about the game. Players (and CMs) are posting information here. We aren't ignoring you or sending you to the outback!

http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=337

http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472

http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=431

Those are quick examples I found on the main page of the open forum. (and I didn't have to search at all, these are literally right there - click and go.)

Players have started threads like: Let us answer your questions.

Yet, you insist that without us opening all the forums for your reading pleasure, you can't know about the game.

I respect your opinion but I disagree. I think when someone pays to play a game, they deserve some special attention. I think they have the right to PLAYER forums.

This is the last debate I want to have on this subject... but I know it wont be the last one I have to be involved in. LOL.
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