Anyone wanting to get their Zoom increased...?

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cielchan
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kay22626 wrote:To be honest i would like a patch that makes it impossible to do, altering the config file is an exploit that should be addressed by the devs.
I believe many players are able to enoy this game on linux and vista with this "exploit", alot is linked don't jump to fast conclusions :rolleyes:
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What's the point?
Altering the cfg file violates the CoC.
Altough I know perfectly how to do, I never changed my cfg file.
Who have changed the file is cheating. Point.

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kay22626 wrote:i would like it only because it would make targeting a bit easier but it also would make other things easier and that is not good.
To be honest i would like a patch that makes it impossible to do, altering the config file is an exploit that should be addressed by the devs.
I think that is prcisely why the dev's don't want you doing it. I would just like to get the darn camera outta my own way. I;m tired of clicking on one node and then starting to dig another a few meters away. Especially annoying if you get ya dig interrupted and go to continue again and wind up taking ya focus cause you started a new node.
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kay22626 wrote:i would like it only because it would make targeting a bit easier but it also would make other things easier and that is not good.
To be honest i would like a patch that makes it impossible to do, altering the config file is an exploit that should be addressed by the devs.


moot point, people will edit their cfg files. GF doesnt have the money / time to make content / mechanics to get new players. i dont see people leaving saying 'because they edited their config file!" . id worry about something that actually matters.
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kay22626 wrote:i would like it only because it would make targeting a bit easier but it also would make other things easier and that is not good.
To be honest i would like a patch that makes it impossible to do, altering the config file is an exploit that should be addressed by the devs.
gcaldani wrote:What's the point?
Altering the cfg file violates the CoC.
Altough I know perfectly how to do, I never changed my cfg file.
Who have changed the file is cheating. Point.
I'd have to give up sound if I didn't edit the config file and was specifically direcetd by GF to do so. Never had to do that until they introduced the background downloader. Many people on Linux and Vista wouldn't be able to play if they couldn't edit the config file.

a) There are legitimate reasons to be able to change the zoom angle - i.e. not having to have you mount's rear end fill mpost of the screen.

b) The are improper reasons for wanting to change the config file - i.e. targeting someone 250 m away.

The simple soultion is to add something in the Game Configuration section IG consisiting of two sliders.

1. Camera Distance - where you can move the slider from left to right say from 0 - 25 in increments of 5. (0,5,10,15,20,25). To my mind there's no advantage here as everythnig one can see on screen even at the highest setting is easily visible on the compass.

2. Camera Stepping - same deal where each click on ya mouse wheel zooms in steps from say 1 - 5.

Now peeps can have reasonable flexibility, don't have to stare at a blow up of a mek's back end and one gains no real advanatge in any manner. You also prevent the peeps from using it to say zoom in at OP battles to target their favorite opponent w/o error.
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I was speaking about the zoom. Of course the permitted editing of the cfg file to remove the background downloader is not against CoC. What i want to point is just that, if devs say: "Okay, you can change the zoom in the file" then it's a legimitate modification otherwise not.

You edited the file to remove the background downloader, not to change the zoom.

I want a higher zoom too, i just want devs saying us: it's Ok, zoom can be edited. So, having an ingame settings is what we want.

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gcaldani wrote:I was speaking about the zoom. Of course the permitted editing of the cfg file to remove the background downloader is not against CoC. What i want to point is just that, if devs say: "Okay, you can change the zoom in the file" then it's a legimitate modification otherwise not.

You edited the file to remove the background downloader, not to change the zoom.

I want a higher zoom too, i just want devs saying us: it's Ok, zoom can be edited. So, having an ingame settings is what we want.
Gilgameesh is spot on in the analysis. Any Dev approved modification is allowable within the CoC. The background downloader or any other cfg modification required to make the game work as designed/intended are legitimate modifications. As of this writing, modifying the zoom is not making the game work as intended.
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daestny wrote:Gilgameesh is spot on in the analysis. Any Dev approved modification is allowable within the CoC. The background downloader or any other cfg modification required to make the game work as designed/intended are legitimate modifications. As of this writing, modifying the zoom is not making the game work as intended.

all that is great and fine, but who cares? i think there are better things to complain / try to get a fix for than someone changing their zoom.


which would you rather have
- an anti-cheat system that makes sure people dont change their zoom and other minor stuff.

- neutrel TPs in 250 zones or a second universal chat channel to be able to talk in, etc.

cause they both take about the same ammount of effort. writing an anti-cheat system that doesnt get many false positives yet at the same time is effective is not easy. and judging by the last patches, haha you wouldnt even get to play the game half the time.
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viper579 wrote:all that is great and fine, but who cares? i think there are better things to complain / try to get a fix for than someone changing their zoom.


which would you rather have
- an anti-cheat system that makes sure people dont change their zoom and other minor stuff.

- neutrel TPs in 250 zones or a second universal chat channel to be able to talk in, etc.

cause they both take about the same ammount of effort. writing an anti-cheat system that doesnt get many false positives yet at the same time is effective is not easy. and judging by the last patches, haha you wouldnt even get to play the game half the time.
*nudges the thread back On Topic* Tps and universe chat aren't the focus of this thread
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All this thread is doing is letting the Devs know that players are cheating and they have somethink to fix, best to just let it drop now. ;)
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