Two Handers or Duel Dagger

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sidusar
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Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

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sehracii wrote:Daggers are bugged and do not attack at higher speed then the other 1 handed weapons, approx 35, 36, 37 hpm. (Tested extensively by a few people)
Which means that you're always better off doublewielding a sword with a dagger. It gets the same attack speed as two daggers, plus a lot more damage.

Doing the math for the best possible Q250 equipment:
2-handed axe: 662 damage, 27 hpm, x2 from increase damage, totals 35748 damage per minute.
1-handed sword: 367 damage, 39 hpm, x2 from increase damage, plus the dagger at 138 damage and also 39 hpm but without increase damage, totals 34008 damage per minute.

So it's actually not that far apart. But keep in mind the second option requires you have two levels at 250, and it will also cost 44% more stamina. Also, as one of the people who tested the speed of daggers and 1-handed weapons, I'm not convinced they even reach the full 39 hit per minute.
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Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

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sehracii wrote:Slow attack only reduces the creatures speed 10%
A shield for added protection and more parry should reduce the damage you take more then that. But, to go uber-tank, use it with 1H mace to get both bonuses. :D

aye, i ment the usign a 1 handed amce with a sheild when i am duoing or tanking, hehe

and thanks sid, seeing as i use heavy armor i cant spam inc. dam much anyway so looks like the dagger/sword combo may work out
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Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

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i've tested many combos with just 1 equipt or 2 equipt on various mobs in various armor.. both daggers i used were ql 210 max speed daggers (rated at 60 hpm) and the max i counted in 1 min was 32 hits. i never got 39. not even close.. some tests i only got 30.

also the double damage stanza only aplies to your right hand so if your daggers are rated 100(100) then the max damage you will do is 300.


btw my ql 230 daggers are now at max damage :P any ql 250 crafters out there?
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Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

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kayak wrote:btw my ql 230 daggers are now at max damage :P any ql 250 crafters out there?
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Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

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Oh, lots of more replies popped up while I was searching for the maximum damage of daggers :)
geezas wrote:(not sure of it is still held tho, used to be the samsara knife fighting contest, you could bet on players, and rahsan would be bookie)
They switched to sword and shield contests. At least, they held one so far and I believe they're planning to hold more.
sehracii wrote:Also the benefit of being able to switch in a shield for extreme tanking. (300+ parry possible, 280 pretty easy)
A good two handed sword and a set of Aen armor can also give you 294 parry. Though I admit a faction shield and a +2 parry set (296 parry at level 250) are easier to obtain than a +20 parry sword and an Aen set.
sehracii wrote:still double chance for interrupting mages in PvP
Have you confirmed this in the meantime? I remember that we questioned this a while ago. When dual-wielding, you either get a critical hit with both daggers at once, or with neither. It seems quite likely to me that this is the same for interrupting casts, and interrupting with both weapons at once is kind of redundant.
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Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by iwojimmy »

another reason to level daggers, is the close combat level is used for Parrying while you have your amps on.. Many times I have changed from melee to casting and been soundly bashed for using a ~70 parry instead of a ~250 dodge...

but getting back to basics... daggers are fun :) even if not instakill devices.

(max posible parry ? 308.. lvl 250 + Aen armour 24 + event shield 34)
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Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

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im afraid fighting a lvl 250 dagger weilder as a mage is a complete and utter !"£@* - lol seh gave me a good whooping in yrk - just cudnt cast :)
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