Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Come in, pull up a chair, let's discuss all things Ryzom-related.
User avatar
evalisa
Posts: 351
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:16 pm

Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by evalisa »

Im looking for a damage option for when i am not tanking, and comparing stats daggers look to be on par or better than two handers, example:

2 hander (axe):
277 max damage, 20 hits per min = 5540 damage per min

Dagger:
63 max damage, 48 hits per min = 3024
Times two for duel wield = 6048



Would this be correct, or are there other values to take into account?

Any disscussion on the matter is welcome
User avatar
sehracii
Posts: 1185
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:00 am

Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by sehracii »

Daggers are bugged and do not attack at higher speed then the other 1 handed weapons, approx 35, 36, 37 hpm. (Tested extensively by a few people)

Also, increase damage does not afect the weapons in your left hand (and probably not accurate attack either, but that's harder to determine) so you only double right hand dagger damage and leave the left as listed on the item.

Edit:
Also something to take into consideration would be that the daggers if they did go that fast would be burning 150% more stamina/HP credits at that hit rate then the slow axe.

But I always encourage just using whatever skills you find the most interesting and fun and forget about the numbers ;)
Sehraci Antodera [Medium Armor & Accessories Boutique]
Master of Illusion and Torment
"True power is not destruction, but control"

Karavaneer - Arispotle
Reapers of the Dark
scarazi
Posts: 528
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:00 am

Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by scarazi »

max speed on a two hand axe is 27hpm
max speed on dagger has been debated alot, the stats aren`t correct, if i rember correctly 39hpm was mentioned (dont quote me on this)

i`ve heard knifes couldbeat AoD`s in PvP due to the constant interuption of cast factor
it`s common knowledge that axe beats AoD 95% of the time (at close range)

Stamina cost whilst using daggers has also been raised as a concern

PvP axe beats daggers
Fun value Daggers beat axe :)
User avatar
evalisa
Posts: 351
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:16 pm

Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by evalisa »

Bummer, i do like the duel style, but i dont like not reaching my potential, guess im a bit of a min maxer *chuckles*
User avatar
geezas
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:10 pm

Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by geezas »

scarazi wrote: Fun value Daggers beat axe :)
Aye :) slice em up! Yarr!
Aina - homin
Evolution
Oh lookie a thingy, that would go very well with this thingy I have here and the other thingy I found at the uhm thingy near uhm well, that's not important right now. This might make a excellent thingy to hit thingies with :D
blaah
Posts: 1333
Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:43 am

Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by blaah »

sehracii wrote:Also, increase damage does not afect the weapons in your left hand (and probably not accurate attack either, but that's harder to determine) so you only double right hand dagger damage and leave the left as listed on the item.
left hand dont get any bonuses, be it inc.damage or acc.attack.

my alt had both 1h and daggers at 51.. 1h got 2000 to 2800 xp, daggers only 1000 to 200, so daggers didnt hit that often (no acc.attack bonus).
User avatar
geezas
Posts: 480
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:10 pm

Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by geezas »

A bonus of daggers is that you can compete in the tournament

(not sure of it is still held tho, used to be the samsara knife fighting contest, you could bet on players, and rahsan would be bookie)
Aina - homin
Evolution
Oh lookie a thingy, that would go very well with this thingy I have here and the other thingy I found at the uhm thingy near uhm well, that's not important right now. This might make a excellent thingy to hit thingies with :D
User avatar
sehracii
Posts: 1185
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:00 am

Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by sehracii »

evalisa wrote:Bummer, i do like the duel style, but i dont like not reaching my potential, guess im a bit of a min maxer *chuckles*
If you want to put in the time- raising both 1H sword and daggers is a very effective melee. It will have the same attack rate as two daggers, still double chance for interrupting mages in PvP, and good damage. Also the benefit of being able to switch in a shield for extreme tanking. (300+ parry possible, 280 pretty easy)
Sehraci Antodera [Medium Armor & Accessories Boutique]
Master of Illusion and Torment
"True power is not destruction, but control"

Karavaneer - Arispotle
Reapers of the Dark
User avatar
evalisa
Posts: 351
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:16 pm

Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by evalisa »

Hmmm...

Yea that could work, im raising maces for my tanking due to the slow attack (although im questioning if that actualy works as well, in theroy it should be the best tank option) raising swords and daggers when im alone could be fun
User avatar
sehracii
Posts: 1185
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:00 am

Re: Two Handers or Duel Dagger

Post by sehracii »

evalisa wrote:Hmmm...

Yea that could work, im raising maces for my tanking due to the slow attack (although im questioning if that actualy works as well, in theroy it should be the best tank option) raising swords and daggers when im alone could be fun
Slow attack only reduces the creatures speed 10%
A shield for added protection and more parry should reduce the damage you take more then that. But, to go uber-tank, use it with 1H mace to get both bonuses. :D
Sehraci Antodera [Medium Armor & Accessories Boutique]
Master of Illusion and Torment
"True power is not destruction, but control"

Karavaneer - Arispotle
Reapers of the Dark
Post Reply

Return to “General”