As if the Tryker mat woes were not enough!!!

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Re: As if the Tryker mat woes were not enough!!!

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ayne31 wrote:This is the first time I didn't stick to this plan either :(


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jdiegel wrote:All MMO's are released with bugs. I think SoR is probably one of the least buggy releases I've seen. As a gaming community, we have proven that we are willing to accept this situation. So, if I were you, I would plan on running into little roadblocks like this in any MMO you play ever.


I don't agree SoR is the least buggy. It's certainly not as bad as some, but there are still inventory, lag, documentation, and play balance issues that stand out as needing to be fixed before serious play.

In any case, the constant "SoR is sooo buggy" vs "SoR is the best in the world" diatribes need to stop. We've covered these points over and over again, people are not going to change on these issues, it's not worth arguing about IMO.

What we do want to discuss here is the Tryker mat and guild mission problem, and hopefully get some official developer non-stroking concrete action-plan feedback on the issue. Customer service people this is not addressed against you; we thank you so much for stroking us and letting us know the problem is being worked on, and we do appreciate your efforts. At this time we, your faithful customers, would like to hear real, actual, concrete, and (mostly) definate plans and dates for addressing these two serious issues imbalancing Tryker play. We understand that these issues take meetings and brainstorming sessions during long workdays, that's fine, just let us know as soon as you can.

Oh, and this one doesn't sound like a Tryker specific bug.


Who else has this bug then?
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Re: As if the Tryker mat woes were not enough!!!

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qwipso20 wrote:
Who else has this bug then?


I guess I should have phrased this differently. What I should have said is that isn't it a little early to declare this Tryker specific when we haven't heard reports from other species who have progressed to the same point as you and not experienced this problem? In other word, who doesn't have this bug?

The materials thing, yeah, certainly Tryker. Outpost officers being the wrong species? Well, being a technical person, that one strikes me as something that could, quite possible, be a game wide issue. I would definetly would have looked into it some more before declaring it unique to one species.
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jdiegel wrote:I guess I should have phrased this differently. What I should have said is that isn't it a little early to declare this Tryker specific when we haven't heard reports from other species who have progressed to the same point as you and not experienced this problem? In other word, who doesn't have this bug?

The materials thing, yeah, certainly Tryker. Outpost officers being the wrong species? Well, being a technical person, that one strikes me as something that could, quite possible, be a game wide issue. I would definetly would have looked into it some more before declaring it unique to one species.


We have reports from matis that they have no problem getting outpost missions.
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Zorai and Fyros have no outpost officers except the tribal ones... which are of no use without the civilization outpost officers.

Reports I heard were that Matis didn't have the proper officers to start the outpost missions either. So at least a good part of the "race bias" whining is off base.

and yes I want to see these in-game for all of us at the same time as much or more than anyone.
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Zori have their issues, one reason I stopped playing mine and even deleted her (other than the mask thing, UGH hate it thanks). The welcomer mission is bugged.

Other racial issues that are NOT as bad as Trykers have it. Matis have NO decernable harvesting clues. What do I aim at I asked the master foragers in region?? I got "Aim at the trees"? Holy COW that is every five or ten FEET, and there can not possibly BE a node on every one of them?

Zori also have NO decernable clue on harvest nodes.

Fyros node clue are SO easy to see (on the average system, for some reason, even with my daughters system setting EXACTLY like mine, she is not able to see them, they just aren't drawing on her system) that Stevie Wonder could harvest. (set Micro veg at 10% in Fyros lands and about 40 in Tyker lands to see the harvest clues).

And I feel your pain, I LOVE Trykers too, and Matis for that matter, but I am not willing to be the red headed step child in any game ever again (EQ mage to level 65, Nuf said, been there, wore that cross, won't do it again PERIOD).

I am not sure if Tyker was just not a first priority or if they are supposed to have to work harder. (I hear that the benefits once the racial differences are turned on will be worth it, if I am reading correctly Tryker will get a sneak/hide kind of racial skill and be MUCH better at making and using guns.)

I agree it needs to be in patch one OR two at the latest, and it should be a top priority, after the lag issues.
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lyrah68 wrote: (I hear that the benefits once the racial differences are turned on will be worth it, if I am reading correctly Tryker will get a sneak/hide kind of racial skill and be MUCH better at making and using guns.).
I hope this is not confirmed.
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Re: As if the Tryker mat woes were not enough!!!

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Argh! Leave it to me to make my character the race that is gimped out of the box.
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I have not played a Tryker ... do not know if I will. I do know that there are numerous issues on the table for everyone not just Tryker.

One thing that needs to be detailed though is what is the highest priority for being fixed.

There are those crying there is not enough content.
Others that this doesnt work like 'I' want it to ...
My race doesnt have this and my race doesnt have that.

That is not a flame at anyone specific. Just a observed comment. The devs are truly busy working on fixing things. I think that 'WE' as a community must come up with a list of the Top 5 things that should be fixed. In return I would think we should get from Nevrax what they believe is a reasonable timeframe to fix items on that list.

We as a community that want to see SoR thrive into the great fruit it can be must first show Nevrax some grace and cut down on the wants and focus on the needs.


Now ... flame me if you will ... but I do not think that is such a difficult thing to ask from each and everyone. No this is not a wishlist. This is a no holds barred game stopping thing. The outpost officers do not work for anyone .. is this more important than Tryker mats? Is ranged combat fixes more important? These are the things 'WE' need to decide so that the devs will have a clear vision of where to go instead of the hundreds of things everyone WANTS fixed or changed or modified.
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Stygeon put that rather well in my opinion. Over in DragonRealms we don't even have full time devs, and what devs we do have are NOT payed for their work. They just love the game that much. One thing they've done recently is to poll the guilds about what things they want to see above all others, and when that is done, the devs take that information and address those issues first.

The same thing needs to be done here. Just what bugs/issues are most important to us right now? I believe that Tryker mats need to be fixed first, followed by outpost missions, followed by ranged combat. That's my personal priority list. The sad thing is, I don't play Tryker and never will.

We need to make a list of all the issues currently plaguing us. Then, we make a poll based on that list, and see what we get. Sounds like a good idea to me.
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