Explain grouping please

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lily123
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Explain grouping please

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That pesky ole EQ er yet again! Explain grouping please. Can anyone group with anyone? No level restrictions? How is the exp allocated? Equal shares or pro rata? And, at the risk of sounding like a true village idiot, how is level determined? Are there actually 4 levels for ya? One for all four skill sets? My combat and magic are surely rising as I'm whacking some of the newbie stuff but not doing a whole lotta harvesting and absolutely no crafting. Bad move? So many questions and the more I play the more I have. I guess thats a good thing. Weapons decay - Thats the little number in lower right corner of weapon icon? Can we repair or once gone, thats it? Does weapon loose effectivness as it erodes? Combat much different than in EQ! No root/ snare? Once engaged thats it? Foolishly have tried to run several times out of habit. Bad idea! And how many times have I engaged a mob only to his/her friend come running in to aid. To many would be appropriate rsponse! Heh heh! A few have responded that game is much better once ya leave newbie island. Can that be true? How much better can it get? And, when to leave? Combat 20 and magic 10 some have said. At first blush that wouls appear painfully inadequate. Should I be strivng to group or is solo possible? Does armor also erode? Have I bored you folks enough? As always any and all tips truly appreciated. May have to make a major life changing decision here between EQ and Ryzom. 20 to 30 hours a week devoted to my chosen alternate world. Thanks all!
Ooops - forgot to ask - Can folks actually buy from you when your NOT in game? How does game tell you? Upon next log in? Thanks again!
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xenofur
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yes, anyone can group with anyone, no restrictions, save for group size, but there's a catch. as you have perhaps seen already(or not) any xp get's capped to 3000. in teams the xp a mob gains is determined by the level of the highest action used in the fight against him or on other players in the fight. this value then get's divided by the number of players in the team, the cap get's applied, and the xp given.
there is no true one level for you char, the most significant is always the highest one used. harvesting and crafting are only of interest for making money and making weapons and armour for the players, so it's your choice if you do them or not, and you can always raise them later. =)
the little number in the corner on weapons shows it's ql(quality level), you can see the decay in the info window reachable from the right-click menu, it's called durability. repair is not possible :/
weapons do not loose effectiveness.
root and other defensive afflictions do exist, but are only useful in teamplay or when used as enchantments on your weapons.
you can run, but only when using the run skill, you should either try to get to a guard, who would then kill the mob, get into water and wait a while so it loses it's interest, or put 100 m between you and it, so it gives up the chase.
don't worry, you'll learn which mobs are social, and over time you might also learn over what ranges.
about 20 in all levels is a good idea, as it gives you a nice start into the real world =)
grouping is always a good idea, makes things fun and easier, soloing is possible too, but you will have to be creative, cookie cutter chars don't work solo (i solo a lot ^^)
armor erodes as well as weapons.
no.
i hope you stay =)
from observation it seems that yes they can buy from you while you're offline, but i dunno if you get notified of that.
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Thank you! As has become the custom, this board never disappoints!
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xenofur
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you're welcome =)
also i have to say that your posts are easy to answer as you use a nice and clean style of asking questions :D
must be your age, somehow after seeing how much this actually affects behaviour i wish that many more older people would participate in online games :)
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ligia
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Yes.Yes.Depends on highest lvl skill used and monster xp i think.Equal unless you are to low and dont get any see previous.Dunno and yes your a true village idiot j/k ;P.wha?.I believe you can say you got 4 main skills that breakdown into several others with time.I recomend Harvesting at least imo its a very usefull skill tree.Check durability.No.Dont think so.You have some magical skills that do that.Yea that sucks.Get a friend to help you too ;P.Yes, you can do alot more exploring, die alot more and check more graphics.I think you can leave when you want since you can have a guild to support, more people to help and most mobs around first town equal to newb island.Its not the skill lvl that counts is how you use it.You will probably need to adjust and be a lil frustated at first, but you will have people to help if you are patient, you will need to be able to solo obviously and will find groups with time.Oh yea....You bet.Yw and have fun.
Oooops. Yep, a message tells you "you have sold ..." only strated happening (the message thing) this patch i think
lily123
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Thanks again for the kind words Xen! I agree with you 100%. I really think I'm gonna like this game but after 4 years of EQ and 56 years on planet earth I'm a slow learner! Heh heh! Game has some nice features. I want to know and understand all of them NOW tho!! All in time I guess. I'm not a patient peep! Just got an email from game offering a free 14 day key. Gonna have to try and get one of my EQ buddies to give it a try as well. We can stumble through that learning curve and look stupid together.
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xenofur
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one up-point to that buddy thingy, if your buddy signs up after the trial period you get one month free, only hook, you get that month after your current paying period, so if you sign up for 3 months you get it after that time
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lily123
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Keep those tips coming!
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In EQ grouping was a MUCH slower way of leveling any class. In Ryzom the EXACT opposite is true. Leveling anything aggressive in Ryzom is MUCH faster grouped, and some docile classes level a bit faster grouped (foraging for one CAN go faster in large groups).

I find that the groups are VERY flexible in Ryzom too, NO more shouting "group needs replacement cleric for *insert really nice camp name here* cleric leaving in five minutes, PST". Since almost everyone has leveled healing SOME at least...if they group at all, EVERYONE can heal, and if someone dies...they do...even the tank will heal to rez someone in.

I have found that ALL about EQ that got under my skin, is NOT the same in Ryzom...down to the community and attitude of most of the players.

and the fact that there is NO reason to loot hog, *extremely contented sigh*
well that there is just the icing on the cake.

Welcome, and enjoy. Hope to see ya in game.
lily123
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Re: Explain grouping please

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Back at ya my friend! Have yet to group and looking forward to it. Perhaps soon.........
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