Catalyzers or other prizes ?

[meloner]

After witnessing the "disappearance" of a few friends overtime and seeing my contact list with 70% of tiny black monitors that I know will never turn blue again, I have been wondering if cats really do benefit players...or if they do the exact opposite ? Indeed, lvl 250s are now so easy to get to, it's only a matter of a few months before a player starts wondering what to do next. Naturally there is more to Ryzom than just grinding, like missions, trekking, OP battles of course...But on the long run, boredom becomes unavoidable, and it all ends up in a cancelled subscription. I am not asking for the complete removal of cats of course. I just think there should be less. So I was wondering if you guys would like OPs to produce less cats and produce something else, something new. The drills could find new kind of materials, that players could use to craft new gear, or even completely useless goodies for showing off : armor, hats, jewels, armor for mounts and packers for added protection (might encourage more people to trek on mounts), furniture for the appartment/GH (why not ?) clothes etc...All this stuff would be fun for crafters ! anything to keep the OPs worth fighting over while keeping the power levelers ingame. Thoughts ?

[iceaxe68]

* wants a sup HQ Mek saddle of really-cool-lookingness *

[gillest]

/ Silly mode on

Produce other mats yes
- Uber tool mats to make huge holes in PR ground/walls
or
- Dynamite to make huge holes in PR ground/walls

So we could blast a hole in there and find this legendary Kitin Liar and those queens that Komissar is starting to investigate

I bet you this would keep the full of atys so busy for 2 or 3 months that most would even not have time to come on forums

[iceaxe68]

I bet you this would keep the full of atys so busy for 2 or 3 months that most would even not have time to come on forums

But what would I do at work?

[jared96]

First thought, make cats ONLY work on crafting. Or maybe ONLY on crafting secondary items. Say you a jooler, you master Diadem.......now you can use cats to double ya xp on crafting up on necklaces, rings, earings, bracelets, anklets......Mastererd 1st 2 hand weapon, can usee cats on all otehr 2 h weapons. Logic being after you learn how to Master a Heavy Armor Vest. one would think that learning pants would go a bit faster. Same tools, same materials, same stitching, same skill.

Or......it's two, two solutions in one. Cats and dappers.

If you havent mastered that primary skill, go to "Kolludge" (sp?). Make cats accelerate learning. Take a few stack of cats and ya tuition money (5,000,000 ?) dappers to your local "Atys Kolludge" and walk away with one level for each one you learn the hard way (no cats).

[kuroari]

pfft Meloner you just wanted to one-up MY poll ..

voted to drop cat-creation-rate and give me MORE STUFF!

the more stuff we have, the less leveling were doing - the longer were gonna stick around to enjoy Stuff !

[akovylin]

In fact i think some other way to introduce cats (rewards) needed, me participate op wars but less and less cause i get nothing of them and jelous me or not i don;t like to spend my time and get nothing for it =) at least give me some honor points so i can buy em less than op owner get from op but at least something so i can feel myself proud and have will (or faith, or greed) to get some more

[twina]

In fact i think some other way to introduce cats (rewards) needed, me participate op wars but less and less cause i get nothing of them and jelous me or not i don;t like to spend my time and get nothing for it =) at least give me some honor points so i can buy em less than op owner get from op but at least something so i can feel myself proud and have will (or faith, or greed) to get some more

Well if you are particpating in OP battles and never receice cats, then you need to be asking why the Kami Alliance is not helping you out - as after all you are a Kami disciple. Perhaps you have not asked for any and they are not aware of your circumstances?

With regard to the original post, for my two dappers worth, yeah sure they could make the OP´s produce more interesting and useful items. However, reading quite a fair few posts, it is clear that this unlikely to be changed by G.Forge in the near future.

As for banishing cats altoghter - I dont thikn that was the oringinal problem to start with why members left - from what I can gather, members left due to the initial implementaion of the actual OP´s and the way it would divide the community. Lets face it - if cats were not around, but there were kick-ass substitues/new/different "prizes" then people would still be fighting over the OP´s - dividing the community either way you look at it.

Also, whether cats are used or not - it aint that hard to grind without them - so if people get bored, then maybe you should stop looking at cats as "being" the problem - but looking at why more content has not been added over such long time periods - for the senior members.

Before anything is taken out of context that I have posted - I would like to say that this is just my humble opinion - not facts. I also am happy with the content there is for players like myself and feel I have lots to do and explore for a long time to come.

[murmadog]

Well if you are particpating in OP battles and never receice cats, then you need to be asking why the Kami Alliance is not helping you out - as after all you are a Kami disciple. Perhaps you have not asked for any and they are not aware of your circumstances?

he need to be asking me, why i won't take cats for guild from Kami Alliance...

just won't see "Meloner's situation" in my guild...

[twina]

he need to be asking me, why i won't take cats for guild from Kami Alliance...

just won't see "Meloner's situation" in my guild...

Understood you think cats are the reason for most people leaving.

However, I disagree firmly. If you look over old posts - most people that have left are the "senior" members - ones that are already "elite" - and realy dont need cats to grind as they have already their main skills up -be it Ele/Heal/Melee. The reason they leave is due to lack of new content being added - not due to cats. And as I said once before the majority that left (according to posts), left due to OP´s being introduced and what they respresent- whether it be cats or elite toys/mats/amrours.

And Meloners original post is a little short and not very imformative - as it implies that cats productions should be "decreased", but not fully taken away and then goes on to say "on the long run boredom becomes unavoidable". The true problems that have been generated is with what OP´s represent - not what they produce - players left as they did not want to participate with the battles. And the second problem is exactly as Meloners said - that boredom is unavoidable - in this game or any game that there is available on the market - that why people move from one to another - be it 3 months or three years - most poeple change.

I think you will find the majority of players that left were veterans - not new players. And the new players that leave - in my opinion would be leaving - not due to using cats to fast - but because of a limited population (no matter how great the people are) and the fact that they may not have too many poeple to team with during certain hours of the day. Not in any way complaining - I enjoy myself at any point during the day - but I can see why some others may not.

As I say - I think people look for a scape-goat with cats - when they should be looking at the real problems - which is what OP´s represent to a tight and small community - the breaking of it apart and also the limited expansion for those veterans.