day 2. Action learning concern and a question if ye please

[kadaena]

got acclimated, started quests mostly in the prospecting arena (haven't even looked at the magic or arms yet).

sooo...level 18/20 in harvest at the moment and there's an action I'd like to get: Prospect For Only Choice Materials. Pre-reqs are level 5-9, Prospect Only for Fine Materials and Prospect Counterpart 2...all of which i have..yet it's not offered in the trainer though in my actions tab it's not darkened indicating i need something lower (like the Prospect Up to Choice Materials for which i would need the Prospect Up to Fine Materials {i like focused prospecting at the moment}.
Am I missing something? Been bugging/worrying me all day. I'm on the first of the Ruins/Harvester quests. If'n ye remember is it going to be part of this series of quests and be offered up later (seems odd since I've bought skills higher). Bugged? (seems iffy but possible i guess).

list of skills at the moment:
0-4
Basic extraction
Basic prospecting
Prospect Counterpart 2
Prospect for only fine materials
5m range prospecting
50m deposit tracking
5-9
Prospect counterpart 3
harmful extraction 20
10-14
Prospec counterpart 4
15-19
20 degree angle prospect

er i think i have extraction counterpart 2 as well (didn't write it down)

now looking to get this:
5-9
Prospect only for Choice materials: pre-reqs= Prospect For Only Fine Material (check) and Prospect Counterpart 2 (check)


2. can one tell the type of material that may be arond by the surrounding flora...like if looking for some wood would better to look near trees, fibres near plants? just a thought I had.

I had some awesome response to my first post. Astounding. Ye all awesome. hope my first concern/question made sense and I provided enough info. Sorry post is so long

-Chirikiti. Cho

[chessack]

Choice prospecting can't be learned on Silan (unless that's changed in the last week or three). Save some skill points for your journey to the mainland and get it there.

Certain skills are simply not available on Silan for a variety of reasons. For example, I don't think there are any choice resources on the island so there'd be no point to learning choice prospect (it wouldn't give you any sources).

Also, no, you cannot tell what sources will be where from the visuals like trees or mushrooms. I know people will tell you that they can, but I've tracked it enough to know it's an old wives' tale. Saying things like "you find Amber near water" is similar to saying that if you rub a rabbit's foot you will have good luck. There are people who will swear by the rabbit's foot too... but I don't buy either claim.

C

[XoloX]

Adding a bit to that:
1. Choice would be veeery biased on Silan, since Silan is Matis/forest territory. Thus, choice forest material can only be used in forest plans (or universal ones gained by rites). But.. you'll only be able to learn your own races plans on Silan so that'd leave all three other races without choice crafts... Don't worry, you were perfectly on course.
You should save SP in harvesting for your transfer to the mainlands, there are other harvesting stanzas unavailable on Silan that are definetly vital to successful harvesting, eg. the speed and rate stanzas.
2. I'm the first, Chessack
Sometimes, there are clues as to find anything at all hidden within the microvegetation. You can check that at times in the desert. Still... better materials being excellent upwards don't behave like regulars anyway *grins*
Also, "regular" materials -these being basic, fine and choice- are usually kinda grouped. An example: wherever you find basic Anete fiber you WILL be able to find fine Anete fiber in its vicinity as well. Another one: when you find choice Visc Sap, there will also be Gulatch oil somewhere around. Still another one? Here you are: where there's Hash amber there will be no Zun amber around...
Still, I won't tell you all groupings and I won't define the area of these vicinities... I'd spoil some of the major fun of prospecting for you
That's all part of gaining experience that is not measured with XP in levels. And that sort of experience is really valuable on Atys - as well as being one of the most fun parts.
Once you've joined a guild on the mainland, you'll have some of that spoiled anyway by older harvesters leading you to the cookie cutter spots rightaway. If you let them

Have fun

[kadaena]

wow again. Ye all are freakin' awesome. seriously 2 posts and multiple detailed replies in both. hahah true the non-experience experience is the fun of prospecting and the gaming in general.

thank you all so much.

time to log in and find that gulatch oil. oi!


-Chirikiti

[chessack]

Sometimes, there are clues as to find anything at all hidden within the microvegetation. You can check that at times in the desert.

I have.

The problem is that micro-vegetation is a client-side decoration whose look, amount, and even position depends on:

1. your graphics card
2. your video drivers
3. your resolution
4. your in-game graphics settings
5. your monitor and card settings (contrast, gamma, etc)

If you change ANY of those, the look, positioning, amount, etc, of the micro-veg will change. However, the position of the resources will be constant.

As a result, I can only conclude that micro-veg has nothing to do with source location, and any "evidence" of it is purely coincidental.

C

[nillian]

What about sparklies?

[rushin]

if you want proof about visual clues come pr digging with me and i can show you.. they are there honestly