stop access violating please!
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:43 am
I hoped the would go away eventually but I still get too many of these:
Access Violation exception generated at 0x57E89D, thread attempts to read at 0x18.
The thread attempted to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.
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Log with no filter:
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2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 73 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 54 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8367/lastAck=8364/nextSentPacket=8368)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 104 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 0)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 0), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8368/lastAck=8365/nextSentPacket=8369)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 72 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 3)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 3), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8369/lastAck=8366/nextSentPacket=8370)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 54 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 161 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8371/lastAck=8340/nextSentPacket=8372)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=371) at level 2 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8371/lastAck=8368/nextSentPacket=8372)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 82 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 0)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 0), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8372/lastAck=8369/nextSentPacket=8373)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 86 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 3)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 3), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8373/lastAck=8370/nextSentPacket=8374)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 111 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 85 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8375/lastAck=8372/nextSentPacket=8376)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 112 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 0)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 0), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8376/lastAck=8373/nextSentPacket=8377)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 85 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 3)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 3), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8377/lastAck=8374/nextSentPacket=8378)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 52 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 85 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8379/lastAck=8376/nextSentPacket=8380)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 89 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 0)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 0), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8380/lastAck=8377/nextSentPacket=8381)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 101 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 3)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 3), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8381/lastAck=8378/nextSentPacket=8382)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 46 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
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User Crash Callback:
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UserId: 170595
ShardId: 103
Player Name: 'Machieltje'
UserPosition: 3236.72 -2368.78 -9.17
ViewPosition: 3236.72 -2368.78 -9.17
Time in game: 0h 29min 12sec
LocalTime: 2005/08/25 13:34:00
ServerTick: 290625862
ConnectState: Connected
LocalAddress: :1095 (10.0.0.2)
Language: English
ClientVersion: 1.2.0.800
PatchVersion: 00079
Client is online
Memory: 31MB/1023MB
Process Virtual Memory: 869MB
NeL Memory: 0B
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) (5.1 2600)
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz / x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 3 / GenuineIntel / 2812MHz / 2 Processors found
CPUID: bfebfbff
HT: YES
CpuMask: 1
NeL3D: OpenGL / NVIDIA Corporation / GeForce FX 5900XT/AGP/SSE2 / 2.0.0
3DCard: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT, version 7.7.7.7
Sound mixer:
Playing sources: 169
Available tracks: 5
Used tracks: 15
Muted sources: 0
Sources waiting for play: 0
HighestPri: 0 / 2
HighPri: 0 / 4
MidPri: 15 / 6
LowPri: 0 / 8
FreeTracks: 5 / 20
Average update time: 0.000015 msec
Average create time: 0.000000 msec
Estimated CPU: 0.000050%%
Sound driver:
FMod Driver
3d hw buffers: 61
2d hw buffers: 32
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How to get rid of them cz they're driving me up the walls...
Access Violation exception generated at 0x57E89D, thread attempts to read at 0x18.
The thread attempted to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.
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Log with no filter:
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2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 73 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 54 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8367/lastAck=8364/nextSentPacket=8368)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 104 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 0)
2005/08/25 13:33:54 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 0), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8368/lastAck=8365/nextSentPacket=8369)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 72 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 3)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 3), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8369/lastAck=8366/nextSentPacket=8370)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 54 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 161 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8371/lastAck=8340/nextSentPacket=8372)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=371) at level 2 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8371/lastAck=8368/nextSentPacket=8372)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 82 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 0)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 0), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8372/lastAck=8369/nextSentPacket=8373)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 86 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 3)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 3), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8373/lastAck=8370/nextSentPacket=8374)
2005/08/25 13:33:55 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 111 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 85 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8375/lastAck=8372/nextSentPacket=8376)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 112 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 0)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 0), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8376/lastAck=8373/nextSentPacket=8377)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 85 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 3)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 3), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8377/lastAck=8374/nextSentPacket=8378)
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:56 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 52 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 85 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 1)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 1), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8379/lastAck=8376/nextSentPacket=8380)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 89 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=115) at level 1 (channel 0)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 1 (channel 0), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8380/lastAck=8377/nextSentPacket=8381)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 101 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe INF 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 72 : CLIMPD: received new impulsion 1 (len=131) at level 2 (channel 3)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 impulse_decoder.cpp 82 : CLIMPD: at level 2 (channel 3), 1 actions (ReceivedAck=8381/lastAck=8378/nextSentPacket=8382)
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 cdb_synchronised.cpp 167 : Update DB
2005/08/25 13:33:57 client_ryzom_rd.exe DBG 2044 udp_sock.cpp 174 : LNETL0: Socket 1904 received 46 bytes from peer 213.208.119.147:47851 (213.208.119.147)
-------------------------------
User Crash Callback:
-------------------------------
UserId: 170595
ShardId: 103
Player Name: 'Machieltje'
UserPosition: 3236.72 -2368.78 -9.17
ViewPosition: 3236.72 -2368.78 -9.17
Time in game: 0h 29min 12sec
LocalTime: 2005/08/25 13:34:00
ServerTick: 290625862
ConnectState: Connected
LocalAddress: :1095 (10.0.0.2)
Language: English
ClientVersion: 1.2.0.800
PatchVersion: 00079
Client is online
Memory: 31MB/1023MB
Process Virtual Memory: 869MB
NeL Memory: 0B
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) (5.1 2600)
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz / x86 Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 3 / GenuineIntel / 2812MHz / 2 Processors found
CPUID: bfebfbff
HT: YES
CpuMask: 1
NeL3D: OpenGL / NVIDIA Corporation / GeForce FX 5900XT/AGP/SSE2 / 2.0.0
3DCard: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT, version 7.7.7.7
Sound mixer:
Playing sources: 169
Available tracks: 5
Used tracks: 15
Muted sources: 0
Sources waiting for play: 0
HighestPri: 0 / 2
HighPri: 0 / 4
MidPri: 15 / 6
LowPri: 0 / 8
FreeTracks: 5 / 20
Average update time: 0.000015 msec
Average create time: 0.000000 msec
Estimated CPU: 0.000050%%
Sound driver:
FMod Driver
3d hw buffers: 61
2d hw buffers: 32
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How to get rid of them cz they're driving me up the walls...