The Kami's Zero Tolerance Policy

[thebax]

Some who know me will notice that I am not writing this in my typical atrocious accent, as this is important, and I wish to be easily understood.

It was requested by one of the liason's that I begin this thread, as apparently the developers are not taking the numerous tickets that have been sent seriously.

According to what I have seen myself, and what reports I have heard, most of the accesible mid- to high-level foraging fields are currently undergoing a bit of a crisis. While I have recieved information from Matis, Zoria, and the lakes that the Kami tolerance is at Zero, or hovering just above it, I can only speak to the state in the desert, to whit, Flaming Forrest. I can usually only log in by 8-9AM EST (1-2 PM BST) and, by then at least, either the Kami begins warning me with the first swing of my pick, or at some point during the first pull. When I am very lucky, I can obtain aproxiamately 100 mats before the smiting begins. At 900-1400 mats per crafting level, this is proving a great hinderance to my chosen path, and rendered months of work invalid. Again, I am by no means discounting the efforts, abilities or frustration of others, as I am hardly the only one that this has affected, but I can only speak to that which I have intimate knowledge. Thus I come to the crux of this post:
A request that you add your voice in response to this issue which currently affects half of the available experience paths, and will eventually affect all as, at the very least, resources become overly scarce, and worse case, crafters get fed up.

All I ask is that responses be limited to those currently affected most, those who either have their entire, or at least current focus in leveling crafting or digging, and that all conflicts over whose fault the angry Kami's are (players, guilds, nation or time zone of origin) be left out of it.

[dam23]

Maybe this is only a temporary undocumented feat... bug, that prevents the tolerance from going up normally ?

If not, it sure needs a tweak.

[keoni]

From my own observations, I can confirm that the rate at which kami tolerance falls seems to be greater recently where I dig (also Flaming Forest), although I have observed no notable increase in the rate of harvesting there to explain it. This seems to have occured about the time of patch 71, so I suspect some sort of undocumented (and perhaps unintended) change resulting from that patch. And, yes, these sort of changes happening without warning, explanation, or discussion is cause for concern, and can be quite discouraging.

[alibasil]

Nothing wrong in the Zorai lands, but then we do make sure we protect the land

Seriously tho, in the Void i havent seen the tolerance bar drop any further than 95% remaining.

If it is dropping away to fast, leave the area and find somewhere new. Simple

[mmatto]

I agree with Ali , no problems in jungle. Harvesters do not see the wrath pf Kami even in most harvested areas like Kipee Mull and The Lost Valley. But we did not used to have Kami problems earlier either and there seems to be more miners near Dyron, Thesos or FF entrance than in whole Witherings.

[keoni]

If it is dropping away to fast, leave the area and find somewhere new. Simple

Ummmm - simple? It's simple enough, sure, to make that suggestion to someone else, when you're able to mine a safe area that isn't affected by KT. For desert harvesters above 200, our choices are Flaming Forest or the canyon. Making your way deep into agg-infested 250 zones, and finding a place where you can safely harvest the mats you need there... is far, far, from simple, mate.

[alibasil]

Kami tolerance is only going to be low in certain over-harvested spots. Unless its the case that everywhere in the fyros 250 zones is being over-harvested with people blowing up sources too.

For instance the lost valley i saw the KT drop a little, but im sure up round by paramount stock the kami tolerance has probably never dropped.

If its specific mats you are after then it looks like you can either wait for KT to go back to normal, or run the risk of a quick death. If its non-specific mats (grind mats) then im sure there must be another spot you can run off to?

[katriell]

On one hand...low tolerance in some places would make sense. I mean, you can't have dozens of foragers forage the same spot for months and not expect the resources of Atys to become strained, and Kami tolerance lowered. If the tolerance suddenly shot back up as the result of a dev tweak requested by players, it wouldn't make much sense...

But on the other hand, common foraging spots becoming more risky/difficult would affect the economy, and possibly make it harder for beginner harvesters (such as my Tryker character).

[geezas]

The KT is there for a reason and since players gravitate to easy spots it is felt the hardest there. If the KT was dropping slower so the most used spots would be less effected there is no use for it anymore. Might aswell set up a stripmine operation.

Since digging is relatively easy in the burning desert (compared to other lands) there will be more problems with KT there. I think it is not a problem of the KT but of the (to?) easy acces to spots. But then again I am a tryker, after level 50 I went to loria to dig since it was easy to dig there before WoM, Fount and EI became intresting.

In the lake lands the only trouble I've seen with KT is in fount at the karavan TP.

[vguerin]

Kami tolerance is doing exactly what it's intended to do, why change it ? The problem exists in all the lands just as stated for one reason only. We ALL want to forage the easiest, highest & specific mat we can find based on what we craft. Everyone digs the same spots and create their own hazard. The Kami do not want their lands pillaged.

Fear not though, there are spots in Prime Roots that don't typically achieve any Kami problems but are empty. Because the above ground lands don't empty, they allow you to overdig them areas. If the higher quality mats in PR used the same ruleset, we'd be seeing many of the key spots with lower KT because there'd be several of us camped on the spots.

This game doesn't need any more dumbing down, maybe it's the homins that need to smarten up ?

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