{never got around to finish this, hope some of you can use it anyway}
It was a dark and stormy night, when the Grind Gorilla, Content and You walk into the SoR bar.
An unnatural silence settles over the room as the trio slithers towards the barkeeper.
There have been a lot of talk on the forum about content, but what is content?
Few seem to define what they think content is, I will attempt to touch on some aspects to content.
You are content, no matter what you do or don't do. Just by being in the game. It might be tiny or big, but you can't escape adding something.
This of cause doesn't help much in clearing up what content is, but it is an important concept.
Let's start really basic, there are two types of players the Grind gorilla and everybody else {note; prepare to get flamed over this, maybe rewrite a bit?}
The grinder will be happy just to gain level, it is often their sole purpose to playing, they might touch on content but rarely do.
Everybody else constitutes most of the player base, from fulltime RP'ers (rare) to those who play for fun.
The content I will try to focus on isn't the Grind gorillas', even though it can be argued that they too bring some content to the game.
For SoR there are 3 types of content creators, namely player, CSR and Nevrax.
The latter two can be very hard to tell apart as they often intermix, and I will make no attempt at telling the apart {could maybe compare the week long event to the 'dailies'}.
Player and CSR events are most of the time easy to tell apart, but even they can overlap.
In the end, they are all content and can have world wide impact.
{add more depth to paragraph}
Obviously this isn't a clear answer to what content is. Let's try to create some arch types.
- Missions (NPC)
- Rites
- Popquiz
Here and now event, no planning needed just think of something which might be fun to do for a short while.
- Story and poem readings
- Social/roleplay
- Treks/tours/escorts/etc.
- Seek and/or destroy
- Competitions
- Invasions
{need a lot of work here, ya lazy bum!}
By now there should be a clearer picture of what content is and it many forms. It ranges from tiny to big.
If you don't participate in some of the content out there, at least have respect for those who do, and enjoy doing it.
In the end it comes down to you, the player, what content matters to you.
It is there, now go and enjoy it.
Grind Gorilla, Content and You
Grind Gorilla, Content and You
Lien Chang
"We can't stop here, this is bat country" - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
(\(\
(^.^)
(")")
*This is the cute bunny virus, please copy this into your sig so it can spread.
"We can't stop here, this is bat country" - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
(\(\
(^.^)
(")")
*This is the cute bunny virus, please copy this into your sig so it can spread.
Re: Grind Gorilla, Content and You
*nods*
To me, "content" is a tree...a herd of Capryni...a game without content would have to be an empty space. But I enjoy exploring, and I love prettiful graphics. Exploring a game such as Ryzom could entertain me for years.
As for the sort of content Ryzom supposedly lacks...I don't expect to be spoon-fed. I wish players took the initiative more often in creating their own content, such as events.
Since each shard can diverge in storyline, affecting the story is as simple as doing a role-playing event and at the end saying "this is how it is now, this has changed and this has changed."
I also believe it is totally wrong to assume. You have NO idea what is going on at Nevrax, what's in the developers' minds...
To me, "content" is a tree...a herd of Capryni...a game without content would have to be an empty space. But I enjoy exploring, and I love prettiful graphics. Exploring a game such as Ryzom could entertain me for years.
As for the sort of content Ryzom supposedly lacks...I don't expect to be spoon-fed. I wish players took the initiative more often in creating their own content, such as events.
Since each shard can diverge in storyline, affecting the story is as simple as doing a role-playing event and at the end saying "this is how it is now, this has changed and this has changed."
I also believe it is totally wrong to assume. You have NO idea what is going on at Nevrax, what's in the developers' minds...
Re: Grind Gorilla, Content and You
Would be great if we had the ability to request CSRs/GMs to create custom high lvl chars for use in player made events - would give people a real challenge -
e.g. Evil guild running around killing everyone in PR - needs players to get together and take em out
Would be great if the custom chars would only "live" for ~2 deaths/spawns - that way couldn't be overly abused, would give players a real sense of accomplishment - the evil ones would never again be seen on Atys
Would be good if their bodies could be looted as well
1
Just a thought - aside from pure RP, I really would like to be able to interact more with the game envioronment - would like to see ruins that can be explored, chests that can be looted, etc, etc, blah, blah...if wishes were horses...lol
Hellraiser
e.g. Evil guild running around killing everyone in PR - needs players to get together and take em out

Would be great if the custom chars would only "live" for ~2 deaths/spawns - that way couldn't be overly abused, would give players a real sense of accomplishment - the evil ones would never again be seen on Atys

Would be good if their bodies could be looted as well

Just a thought - aside from pure RP, I really would like to be able to interact more with the game envioronment - would like to see ruins that can be explored, chests that can be looted, etc, etc, blah, blah...if wishes were horses...lol
Hellraiser
Re: Grind Gorilla, Content and You
Grind Gorilla ??? 
ummm yeah well maybe but my grind does have a purpose , i want to be able to complete all craft/forage missions , i also started off grinding missions at release in the hope that fame would be needed for the *soon* arriving Outposts -something im also very interested in as i feel its the only way we can truely influence day to day life on Atys
Lacking content for me is the other (70-90?) Rites and Outposts that have been *soon* for months and also the more complex type of event (including forage/craft roles -not everyone is combat orientated)

ummm yeah well maybe but my grind does have a purpose , i want to be able to complete all craft/forage missions , i also started off grinding missions at release in the hope that fame would be needed for the *soon* arriving Outposts -something im also very interested in as i feel its the only way we can truely influence day to day life on Atys
Lacking content for me is the other (70-90?) Rites and Outposts that have been *soon* for months and also the more complex type of event (including forage/craft roles -not everyone is combat orientated)
Zoraï : Master Desert/Forest/Jungle/Lakeland/PR Forager , Master Light Melee Weapon Smith , Jeweler Master , 201+ in All 39 Craft Branchs , All Craft Trainer and Outpost plans -gone walkabout (solo) awaiting new content
"There are no OMG's of mass destruction"
"There are no OMG's of mass destruction"
Re: Grind Gorilla, Content and You
Hiyah Lien if your still running around the forum with your hat on (magic hat);
ah why does stuff happen when i least expect it. anywho Ghuiss here (and the brain behind ghuiss). lured out of my silence. For some reason i think i want to comment.
what you describe seems all above board but a ryzom player can change there spots.
Meena once said to me if you set your goal as 250 and you reach it then whats left for you to do.
I think what most players are seeking in terms of content is a reason to be "here" a reason to "train" a reason to be at there "level" a reason to be spending there "money". i also think what content is; is the pay off you (the person) gets from playing. Good pr (eep ment rp) tends to increase this.
The biggest content ghuiss has found is other players. Even when he was a young homin blasting up through the warrior ranks.
The problem that arrises is that once you the player has been here for a while the payoff lessens and there is less reason to play. Then the word content gets thrown around along with the word ryzom game. And so what is the reason to be a great fighter mage crafter forager? (answers on a post card)
At the moment with the "pushing" of outposts and pvp is it killing other homins?
I think something important on the box was the "RAID" engine what is this? what does it do? have we seen it? does it work?
I think another thing was to band together and fight off invading armies? armies of players?
Hum....Is it good enough to just exist in a virtual world and chat and hunt forage craft explore?.
Today Ghuiss woke up in atyss for 8 hours and earned about 3xp. Yet he had a very enjoyable afternoon. he held a ryzom poker match. Last week Ghuiss hunted nonstop with friends and was awarded a new title which was also very enjoyable. Once he tried to combine missions to become a better Zorai and also become a better healer this wasnt so great.
End of story, content is what you make it, but as such the game is simply a blank canvas to allow you to do things. Very rarely sometimes Nevrax will put chess pieces on the board which is their content for you. (Ref lots of arguements by Raynes et al) (Ref lots of defenses by Jyudas et al)
/target ghuiss
/silly
Final thing, *waves bye to lien* is happy for lien. hopes all the best and haste ye back. Ghuiss wishes he could of said goodbye in game.
Song for lien.
"where do we go from here"
"the words are coming out all weird"
"where are you now when i need you"
ah why does stuff happen when i least expect it. anywho Ghuiss here (and the brain behind ghuiss). lured out of my silence. For some reason i think i want to comment.
what you describe seems all above board but a ryzom player can change there spots.
Meena once said to me if you set your goal as 250 and you reach it then whats left for you to do.
I think what most players are seeking in terms of content is a reason to be "here" a reason to "train" a reason to be at there "level" a reason to be spending there "money". i also think what content is; is the pay off you (the person) gets from playing. Good pr (eep ment rp) tends to increase this.
The biggest content ghuiss has found is other players. Even when he was a young homin blasting up through the warrior ranks.
The problem that arrises is that once you the player has been here for a while the payoff lessens and there is less reason to play. Then the word content gets thrown around along with the word ryzom game. And so what is the reason to be a great fighter mage crafter forager? (answers on a post card)
At the moment with the "pushing" of outposts and pvp is it killing other homins?
I think something important on the box was the "RAID" engine what is this? what does it do? have we seen it? does it work?
I think another thing was to band together and fight off invading armies? armies of players?
Hum....Is it good enough to just exist in a virtual world and chat and hunt forage craft explore?.
Today Ghuiss woke up in atyss for 8 hours and earned about 3xp. Yet he had a very enjoyable afternoon. he held a ryzom poker match. Last week Ghuiss hunted nonstop with friends and was awarded a new title which was also very enjoyable. Once he tried to combine missions to become a better Zorai and also become a better healer this wasnt so great.
End of story, content is what you make it, but as such the game is simply a blank canvas to allow you to do things. Very rarely sometimes Nevrax will put chess pieces on the board which is their content for you. (Ref lots of arguements by Raynes et al) (Ref lots of defenses by Jyudas et al)
/target ghuiss
/silly
Final thing, *waves bye to lien* is happy for lien. hopes all the best and haste ye back. Ghuiss wishes he could of said goodbye in game.
Song for lien.
"where do we go from here"
"the words are coming out all weird"
"where are you now when i need you"
Re: Grind Gorilla, Content and You
how the h do you host a ryzom poker match?
I am in for $10!
p.s. you forgot to take out a lot of them {note to self} notes there, Lien.
p.p.s. They are fun to read though, it's just like I am right inside your head!
I am in for $10!
p.s. you forgot to take out a lot of them {note to self} notes there, Lien.

p.p.s. They are fun to read though, it's just like I am right inside your head!
Fyrx, Fyros
Re: Grind Gorilla, Content and You
Never got to know you very well Lien, but I still wish I could've gotten the chance to say good bye in game. I for one certainly hope you get back, because I really really need that zoraï mace soon! 
Anyways, take care and good luck. I'm sad to see yet another great homin vanish off the face of Ays
PS. Ghuiss, stop acting silly!

Anyways, take care and good luck. I'm sad to see yet another great homin vanish off the face of Ays

PS. Ghuiss, stop acting silly!

.:::Nerriah:::.
Re: Grind Gorilla, Content and You
Content idea:
Randomizer Bingo!
Randomizer Bingo!
Frydeswinde
Evolution member.
Founder of the Yubo Liberation Front.
Suspected long lost sister of Neun.
Ryzom Wiki
MMO's: If I wanted to play with myself, I would grab a magazine and a box of tissues.
Evolution member.
Founder of the Yubo Liberation Front.
Suspected long lost sister of Neun.
Ryzom Wiki
MMO's: If I wanted to play with myself, I would grab a magazine and a box of tissues.
Re: Grind Gorilla, Content and You
Ghuiss wasn't accepting dollars, only dappers, and he didn't seem to take bribes to fix my handvinnyq wrote:how the h do you host a ryzom poker match?
I am in for $10!
p.s. you forgot to take out a lot of them {note to self} notes there, Lien.
p.p.s. They are fun to read though, it's just like I am right inside your head!


Zok
Kitin Slayer, smasher, harvester plus mace and jewel crafter
Homin for hire, mayhem a speciality.
Kitin Slayer, smasher, harvester plus mace and jewel crafter
Homin for hire, mayhem a speciality.

Re: Grind Gorilla, Content and You
That'll only happen when the Kami and the Karavan bury their differences to cast an uber aura of sense on himahlmea wrote: PS. Ghuiss, stop acting silly!![]()

Zok
Kitin Slayer, smasher, harvester plus mace and jewel crafter
Homin for hire, mayhem a speciality.
Kitin Slayer, smasher, harvester plus mace and jewel crafter
Homin for hire, mayhem a speciality.
