Spoiled Skill Babies

[jujumon]

I was reading through some of the posts regarding the upcoming patch and the racial abilities that are supposed to arrive. I noticed a number of people getting up in arms about the possibility of racially limited skills. In fact, I even heard such remarks as "this is another EQ clone".

Just out of curiosity.... are you insane?

Do you have any idea how much freedom we have in this game? How utterly unique and BIZZARRE it is, to be able to start a caster with the same character that is a high level fighter and do it by fighting NOOB mobs? Not only are we allowed to pick any skill we want to, we get to level them from start to finish, there IS no overshadowing "Level" to our characters that define what we will get experience from in all skills. It's COMPLETELY skill based.

So you say you want to keep your favorite class layout, and you are worried that you will suddenly have to change with the addition of new and powerful racial skill sets? Well let me suggest this: if you were an effective character BEFORE the racial skills I am *guessing* that you will get a racial skillset that is effective for you. If you are mad because there's no racial skill pack for a 'Tryker Care-Harvest Heavy-Armor Unarmed Mage', maybe not having the most efficient skills is kinda your cross to bear.

And you know what else? Nobody is going to take your skills away from you. We are all free to go merrily down are way into as much trouble as we like. And we're just as free to come back and learn some useful skills. Now I UNDERSTAND it is possible to break a character: you cannot learn all the abilities and stanzas even with everything mastered. But if you made it far enough for that to be an issue, it seems like you must have a reasonable character laid out, and I'm sure there will be some nice racial skills that will benefit you.

So chill out. This game is in no danger of being class-based, or "EQ-fied".

Jueiin

[neiana]

This should most definately have not been its own thread. -_-

- N

[jujumon]

This should most definately have not been its own thread. -_-

- N

My bad sweetie, I'll take it down for ya

Jueiin

[ayne31]

So you say you want to keep your favorite class layout, and you are worried that you will suddenly have to change with the addition of new and powerful racial skill sets? Well let me suggest this: if you were an effective character BEFORE the racial skills I am *guessing* that you will get a racial skillset that is effective for you. If you are mad because there's no racial skill pack for a 'Tryker Care-Harvest Heavy-Armor Unarmed Mage', maybe not having the most efficient skills is kinda your cross to bear.

Regarding my posts I never asked for a racial skillset. I like the low lvl game (means up to 50) as it is now. But there were some things that intrigued me from reading on various websites.

Remarks about the Fyros as a fire based fierce culture or the Tryker as an elusive, stealthy and free spirited seafolk hooked me up. I allready dreamt about playing something completely different for years - like some kind of Tryker underwater guerilla hunter but then I discovered that there were no racial diversities and I was a bit disappointed. But then I realized the advantages of an even playfield and the freedom to choose whatever I wanted because I wouldn't be able to make any wrong decisions (wasting 100reds of skill points is enough imho).

My *problem* is just that if the Tryker are going to be an elusive stealthy underwater guerilla hunter in *game* terms within 6 weeks instead of background I will feel betrayed.

Not because I have to reroll ( I still have 3 slots left open) but because Nevrax have released the game to early under these circumstances. And dont think that any company (not only Nevrax) gives a damn what 10.000 preorder subcribers want if they know they can only get some other 50.000 buyers if they change a game dramatically. The desing team did an OUTSTANDING job but marketing folks usually are a different *race* - not only in the term of background stories.....

[jmaiers7]

You know what i like about the MMORPG genre? .... it's the fact that the game is always changing. Says so right on every box, "game content may be subject to change". So why is it when the Dev team does its job and changes game content, people always start flaming the game as being in BETA still? I dont get it. We pay a monthly fee to have stuff like this done. Racial abilities ... bring it. Will it gimp me ... dont care... played gimp before ... loved it. Nuthin like seeing a Half Ogre caster in DAoC. You know in end game racial abilities mean lil to nuthin anyway. So lets not flame the Devs until we actually know what they have in store as far as race... my guess. They arent gonna be lookin to lose customers. Will prolly add different jobs based on race for each skill. Just my two cents. I love this game so far and I am all for diversifying the races. Keep it up Nevrax

[ayne31]

How about introducing a new race with new skills and new abilities each quarter? Maybe the PERFECT offensive mage race, the ONE healing folk, the ONLY stealth creatures, the TRUE prospecting culture - THAT would be fun, wouldnt it?

[Heilsbringer]

I think the changes in race-related abilities will only surface as specializations in some skill-fields like magic. Maybe the Fyros will be able to conjure more devastating fire spells than the Matis wich are better in acid spells and such!
Or the electric Zorai swords are better handled by the Zorai and when a Tryker wields one, he uses much more stamina and so on.
I can´t think of Nevrax being so cold and lets us old BT´s need to make a complete new char, just to get those "50.000" on board. They just can´t do that. Put your pessimism away, ayne31.

The changes will be smooth and good for everyone. If not, hang me...

[neiana]

How about introducing a new race with new skills and new abilities each quarter? Maybe the PERFECT offensive mage race, the ONE healing folk, the ONLY stealth creatures, the TRUE prospecting culture - THAT would be fun, wouldnt it?

If the game were released that way, that would be *THE* awesome game.

Ever hear of Horizons? I don't mean the game as it is now, but the game that it was originally intended to be...

hot dang that game would have sliced and diced it's competition to THREADS. All while making dragons play without any contant with ANY other race for 6-9 MONTHS, Vampires only being able to be in towns during the night time etc etc etc.

The community was *HUGE*, and then they destroyed it. So, FYI, a properly put together game with those goals in mind would be _THE_ best MMO.

- N

[ayne31]

I think the changes in race-related abilities will only surface as specializations in some skill-fields like magic. Maybe the Fyros will be able to conjure more devastating fire spells than the Matis wich are better in acid spells and such!
Or the electric Zorai swords are better handled by the Zorai and when a Tryker wields one, he uses much more stamina and so on.
I can´t think of Nevrax being so cold and lets us old BT´s need to make a complete new char, just to get those "50.000" on board. They just can´t do that. Put your pessimism away, ayne31.

The changes will be smooth and good for everyone. If not, hang me...

These things you mentioned i can perfectly live with....so my prayers go to the Kami and Karavan that you'r right

[ayne31]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ayne31
How about introducing a new race with new skills and new abilities each quarter? Maybe the PERFECT offensive mage race, the ONE healing folk, the ONLY stealth creatures, the TRUE prospecting culture - THAT would be fun, wouldnt it?

If the game were released that way, that would be *THE* awesome game.

NO! it would have just been THE EQ-SF clone! *sigh*