Faction problems...

[jurand]

Ok, going by what was posted in Q&A:

"...tribes only attack you if they have very GOOD reasons to do so (ie. you need a -100 fame with them)."

We should be safe, untill hitting the -100 faction. This morning, while on my way to the usual PR spots I was attacked and killed on sight by Cholorogoos. Those that forage Gates of Obscurity in Umbra will recognise the name I'm sure.

Now, my faction with then is at -82(thanks to working on some Fyros and Zorai faction missions) but that should still have been "safe".

This is the first time that they attacked me so, just to make sure I was not halucinating, I went back for a second serving... sure enough, killed on sight again.


Because of the above, I was wondering, could anyone with a negative Cholorogoos faction pop over and have a look if the same happens? (Know that I am potentially asking you to suicide your toon, but would like to know if its just me or what is going on)

Now, before anyone asks... I did submit a ticket and talked to a GM... but we all know how quickly things get "fixed" here....

Also, yes .. I know there are other PR locations. This, however, is a Q150 region so I should not have to forage in areas way over my level just to "get around" a problem....

[tobaran]

I believe you are taking the Q&A answer to literally - from what I've heard, you can only have a max of + or minus 100 fame with any one fraction/tribe. I then tend to think of the Fame numbers as a % of how well a fraction/tribe likes or dislikes me. I would think you would have to lower your fame for that fraction to below 50pt before, you will see any affect (IMO).

[jurand]

I believe you are taking the Q&A answer to literally - from what I've heard, you can only have a max of + or minus 100 fame with any one fraction/tribe. I then tend to think of the Fame numbers as a % of how well a fraction/tribe likes or dislikes me. I would think you would have to lower your fame for that fraction to below 50pt before, you will see any affect (IMO).

Could be true, but I ran around Gates of Obscurity for over two weeks with -68 Cholorogoos fame and had no problems.

That is why I thought this:

"...tribes ONLY attack you if they have very good reasons to do so (ie. you NEED a -100 fame with them)."

..to be accurate when it was posted. I mean the statement leaves very little to the imagination...

[sprite]

Afaik its always been -80 that they attack you. Even then it is only the guards at their camp and not wandering patrols or the ones that hang around towers. When I first read the Q&A I interpreted it as saying that they were going to change it to be only attacking at -100 (doesn't make any difference to me... the only ppl who hate me already hate me at -100 fame ) but now I have read it again it does seem like he's saying that *currently* they should only attack at -100, which just isn't the case

[buzyb77]

Ok, going by what was posted in Q&A:

"...tribes only attack you if they have very GOOD reasons to do so (ie. you need a -100 fame with them)."

We should be safe, untill hitting the -100 faction. This morning, while on my way to the usual PR spots I was attacked and killed on sight by Cholorogoos. Those that forage Gates of Obscurity in Umbra will recognise the name I'm sure.

Now, my faction with then is at -82(thanks to working on some Fyros and Zorai faction missions) but that should still have been "safe".

This is the first time that they attacked me so, just to make sure I was not halucinating, I went back for a second serving... sure enough, killed on sight again.


Because of the above, I was wondering, could anyone with a negative Cholorogoos faction pop over and have a look if the same happens? (Know that I am potentially asking you to suicide your toon, but would like to know if its just me or what is going on)

Now, before anyone asks... I did submit a ticket and talked to a GM... but we all know how quickly things get "fixed" here....

Also, yes .. I know there are other PR locations. This, however, is a Q150 region so I should not have to forage in areas way over my level just to "get around" a problem....

to be honist I tonk you get in touble when the Factoin - hits the next color after the -66 one I think it is safe till about -81

[jurand]

Ah, -80 eh?

Makes sense, seeing what is going on :\

Wish I had not looked to official posts for any meaningfull info... had he stated that its -80 at the moment and will be implemented later to trigger at -100 I would have never allowed the faction to drop so low.

Oh well, lesson learned...

...now to see if I can raise the faciton some before I cancel the account out of frustration....

[dakhound]

bad news I think

the Cholorogoos dont associate with any other faction in terms of incraseing fame with them,

the only way to do it would be to do missions for them (of which I think might be a little difficult in your case)

(info from http://ryzom.raum.com/?t=itemdb&s=fame&menu=0 )

or so it seems I may be reading it wrong

[jurand]

Aye, your right Darkhound.

Had a look at that chart myself and its does not paint a pretty picture.

Would pretty much have to do missions for the Tribe Welcomer, since none of the other tribe NPCs are likely to even give missions when fame is negative.... or that has at least been the case with other tribes I did missions for(Water Breakers, Sacred Sap, Leviers, etc..).

Will do a little running around and see if I can track down Scout, Hunter, Prospector, etc.. NPCs in the "countryside" ...not holding my breath, but here's hoping...

[raynes]

Aye, your right Darkhound.

Had a look at that chart myself and its does not paint a pretty picture.

Would pretty much have to do missions for the Tribe Welcomer, since none of the other tribe NPCs are likely to even give missions when fame is negative.... or that has at least been the case with other tribes I did missions for(Water Breakers, Sacred Sap, Leviers, etc..).

Will do a little running around and see if I can track down Scout, Hunter, Prospector, etc.. NPCs in the "countryside" ...not holding my breath, but here's hoping...

Don't take that chart as a 100% accurate listing of how fame is awarded and taken away. It's a work in progress. Try doing some Karavan missions.

[buzyb77]

i go by the Color shifts in the Fame stuff so

-66 you are ok

but 2 color shift up(or down since it is the negative stuff) u are not