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Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:00 pm
by riveit
glipe wrote:Thank you. <blush> I'm glad someone approved of the sentiment without taking issue about the phrases used to voice it.
Sorry Glipe, I didn't mean to be petty. It's just that there are significant differences between the US and most European nations in laws on free speech and slander. I just didn't want the wrong impression given of US laws. Another, tiny correction, in the US, I believe that you don't get prosecuted for defamation. An accusation of defamation is a civil complaint where someone can bring a lawsuit against you. Assault and battery, such as punching someone in the face, on the other hand, is a criminal matter.
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:17 pm
by basicart
soulsnatcher wrote:
No, while it was a matter of unfortunate timing a suspension was not put in place for any emails.
We our selfs can look over DT's past posts and see there is no harasment!
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:41 pm
by zyryx
saeri wrote:If DT doesn't know why he was banned, then you do not know why he was banned. Hence this petition is pointless and baseless.
You are asking for people to sign a Petition to get someone unbanned, but you have no idea why he was banned?? why on earth would be sign then?
We need a reason to do this Zyryx, if you can't give us one, then dont bother cluttering up the forums with this nonsense.
You just outlined my entire argument nicely. I ask people to sign this, because
DT doesn't even know why he was banned. Why would someone be banned and not know why they were banned? If you ask me (yes, I know, my opinion is worthless), if you get banned or suspended, you should know exactly why
at the time of the ban.suspension.
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:20 pm
by kibsword
zyryx wrote:You just outlined my entire argument nicely. I ask people to sign this, because DT doesn't even know why he was banned. Why would someone be banned and not know why they were banned? If you ask me (yes, I know, my opinion is worthless), if you get banned or suspended, you should know exactly why at the time of the ban.suspension.
Souls just said DT was told why he was banned.
Re: Nevermind, just lock this.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:29 pm
by basicart
Mind showing me the part where he said that?
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:41 pm
by glipe
riveit wrote:Sorry Glipe, I didn't mean to be petty. It's just that there are significant differences between the US and most European nations in laws on free speech and slander. I just didn't want the wrong impression given of US laws. Another, tiny correction, in the US, I believe that you don't get prosecuted for defamation. An accusation of defamation is a civil complaint where someone can bring a lawsuit against you. Assault and battery, such as punching someone in the face, on the other hand, is a criminal matter.
It's a contentious issue at the moment in America. They are currently working under two heading; libel and criminal libel. The former needs a case to be brought against it but the latter is actually illegal (burden of proof or "actual malice" lies with the prosecutor). Some states believe the criminal libel issue goes against the 1st but it's still being upheld in most states since the 1964 Supreme Court ruling (New York Times vs Sullivan).
Re: Petition to unban Doubletap from forum and klients
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:43 pm
by amitst
I'm not signing anything unless doubletap really does need help. Though he has made his posts on twazz.net he repeatedly says that he is not asking for help, so let him be until he changes his mind, maybe the situation will clear up in due course, i seriously doubt doubletap does anything on the forums but offer assistance and advice... which dont benefit him at all
Re: Nevermind, just lock this.
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:58 pm
by kibsword
basicart wrote:Mind showing me the part where he said that?
soulsnatcher wrote:asaseth wrote:at least let the guy know that he was banned and what for
Conversations took place before the suspension, and after and are indeed ongoing
Theres more he posted on the other thread, but i'm too tired to find it atm
Re: Petition to unban Doubletap from forum and klients
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:11 pm
by basicart
That to me does not say he was told just that they are talking
Re: Petition to unban Doubletap from forum and klients
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:18 pm
by pinguini
basicart wrote:That to me does not say he was told just that they are talking
LoL.. sorry but what do you think they talked about?
Just a bit chatter over nothing?
Sorry but it really seems to me that you simply don't want to hear the other side and in that case it doesn't matter what anyone says anyway, cause it simply does not get through to you.