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Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:48 pm
by totnkopf
marct wrote:I think he meant that you are unable to attack said Fyros OPs beacuse there is a 'false declaration'. I believe if you walk into Matis and check, there is no Outpost that that has a false declaration, and there has not been.
Noin.
Sorry, noin, but thats not true at all.
I suppose, Atys Keepers, a guild no one has heard of, is just really anxious to get their hands on a GoC OP?
Or the Triangle of Truth, another new guild which mysteriously has the same name as one of the large alliances, also seems to have been pretty eager to attack OPs.
Its not a one sided thing. Both sides are doing it.
Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:52 pm
by namine
marct wrote:I believe if you walk into Matis and check, there is no Outpost that that has a false declaration, and there has not been.
It's not a matter of race or faction, not all Kami guilds are using it, but it's wrong to say that no Karavan guild using it.
If you don't believe me, go to GoC, Westgrove Stronghold, the same guild is attacking this OP for weeks and weeks now....
Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:02 pm
by marct
Well, on the first(West Grove), I was not aware of that, and I am clearly not fond of it. There is no need for such a thing.
On the second, I hope this was not a false attack by the CoM, becuase Myself and 30 other of there friends sat around there doing nothing with them during the attack phase. You think they would do that to their friends?
Anyways, it was not an Anti-kami thing, it was an Anti-the people that are doing it thing. I personally don't like any of them for using it as a stall tactic.
Noin.
Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:14 pm
by zippo123
kratos84 wrote:As far as I know the same thing is happening in Matis as well, as in guilds agree not to attempt to take over each other's outpost in order to protect Karavan interests. In fact I see the opposite of what you are saying, as quite a few Karavan players have expressed to me, proudly, how the Karavan side is united whereas, if you remember, several Kami guilds have attempted to attack other guilds in the desert and the jungle already.
The Karavan players' solution is that they have been actively invading Kami lands. It may be against the principles of several guilds in the desert, yours included, to attack the OP of another guild even if they are in the opposite faction, but that doesn't exactly make them lously people.
Well they are lousy if they sit comfortably on an OP and then all made out its immoral to attack an OP
Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:14 pm
by philu
zippo123 wrote:Try it a 4th time.. i dont know how to make it clear..
I don't like oppressed peace?
I have the feeling that when I (with friends i hope) attack an OP in Fyros we are spit out by the (fyros) community?
I am trying to stop that and make it acceptable by everyone that OP's can be attacked and it might be fun.
Atm nothing is really happening in Fyros...
please tell me you understand my point now?
'Shame' (or rather good) that your guild doesn't agree with your opinion then. Eleytheria are not seeking to attack any other OPs atm are they?
Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:15 pm
by zippo123
philu wrote:'Shame' (or rather good) that your guild doesn't agree with your opinion then. Eleytheria are not seeking to attack any other OPs atm are they?
Not that i am aware of no... does that matter?
Edit.. ah i understand
Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:20 pm
by kyesmith
marct wrote:Well, on the first(West Grove), I was not aware of that, and I am clearly not fond of it. There is no need for such a thing.
On the second, I hope this was not a false attack by the CoM, becuase Myself and 30 other of there friends sat around there doing nothing with them during the attack phase. You think they would do that to their friends?
Anyways, it was not an Anti-kami thing, it was an Anti-the people that are doing it thing. I personally don't like any of them for using it as a stall tactic.
Noin.
Padawan told me of this attack from an unknown guild, i told him it was no secretl kami ploy to take his OP and he should of listened, if you where willing to sit around there for hours waiting unlucky
and yes i dont aprove of these faluse attacks and would tell any guild if i thought someone was going to attack them using some means of skipping a battle.
Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:30 pm
by uhuhu
I killed some kidinaks with some OV and Melinoe peeps... it was fun! but yea... if someone declare war... they must be there :/
Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:01 pm
by kgrieve
philu wrote:Eleytheria are not seeking to attack any other OPs atm are they?
We are not seeking to attack any Outposts though many in the guild are not happy that we have a Q50 one and missed out on the Q200 one we wanted. Instead of attacking we are trying to negotiate a higher level OP, trading outpost mats and, when new Outposts come along, like everyone else will be trying to acquire a good one.
We are guided by our charter, and members are free to do what they feel is right. So far they have just been defending Outposts of friends and allies whether Kami, Karavan, Tryker or whatever race.
If the guild votes to change our position on this, I will post about the change in policy on the forums.
Re: Lousy community
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:03 pm
by Lukati
zippo123 wrote:Try it a 4th time.. i dont know how to make it clear..
I don't like oppressed peace?
I have the feeling that when I (with friends i hope) attack an OP in Fyros we are spit out by the (fyros) community?
I am trying to stop that and make it acceptable by everyone that OP's can be attacked and it might be fun.
Atm nothing is really happening in Fyros...
please tell me you understand my point now?
Look, your P.O.V. is perfectly clear. You're sick of the reaction when one guild attacks another.
Since OP rotation is just dumb, I'm guessing you'd prefer it that, when a guild gets attacked, they stay completely silent, and not bother you with their pesky... reaction?
Sorry, but what you're asking is unthinkable. I'll try to make my point a bit clearer then. As anyone has the right to attack anyone with an OP, the people being attacked have the right to react to that attack in any way they see fit.
Please, stop whining about people whining.