Neutrality

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neiana
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Re: Neutrality

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zumwalt wrote:Going on the roleplaying storyline that has been building up over the past few weeks, it was assumed by LoT that this invasion was the coming of the Kitin, and this is where it turned into a confusing and touchy scenario for the LoT guild.
While this was our original idea, and it was compounded by someone saying in the lakelands that the Kitin had amassed at the Prime Roots... after I had gone to Zorai side, and spoken with the Kami - they did infact comment on the Gibbai/Cutes forming a momentary alliance to try to take over Bounty Beaches and Grove of Umbra.

All that we knew was that the Karavan were asking the Matis to help the Tryker, while the Kami were asking our allies (Zorai / Fyros).

Those that were online at the time, I told them of this. Those that were not online while I was scouting, may not have ever been aware of the full scope of the event.
Although they are not against any single race of Homin (Zorat, Tryker, Matis or Fyros), there aliegence is with the Kami, or otherwise known as the natural inhabitants of Atys.
Well, we are against the Matis because they enslaved us :D And we are sort of questioning the Fyros because they originally unleashed the Kitin as well as the great Fire.

There ultimate goal, is to somehow rejoin the Tryker to the Kami and help in the rebirth of the light and bring others to the Kami cause (what ever that might become in future endevours)
*grins* This is exactly our purpose. I just wanted to comment on that because it is what I've been thinking about for the last couple of years! (Yes, because I've followed the game for quite some time - and I'd already chosen to be a Kami following Tryker, even tho nobody knew we started with Karavan until shortly before release).

Everything else that Zumwalt wrote is spot on. It's what I tell all our new recruits. We're pro-Kami, we don't do business with/of/for Karavan of any kind whatsoever, etc. I also tell them that the path of a pro-Kami Tryker is going to be difficult, so they are aware on the way in. Things like, losing all the spawns in lakelands except for Fairhaven - which has recently happened to three or four of us.

That is the way the game is designed, to allow you to make a choice - and then with work, allowing your personal/guild choices to affect your gameplay.

That is what LoT has done. As a guild, we are playing perhaps the most difficult part of the game... A guild of a race that is going against the grain, gaining fame as an entire guild with the faction that we begin in negative standing.

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Re: Neutrality

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neiana wrote:That is what LoT has done. As a guild, we are playing perhaps the most difficult part of the game... A guild of a race that is going against the grain, gaining fame as an entire guild with the faction that we begin in negative standing.

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Hrmm...I wouldn't say most difficult. I'd say trying to unite both kami and karavan, and the 4 races would be a bigger challenge. But that's just my opinion ;)
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Re: Neutrality

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zzeii wrote:Hrmm...I wouldn't say most difficult. I'd say trying to unite both kami and karavan, and the 4 races would be a bigger challenge. But that's just my opinion ;)
Uniting the 4 races is simple. Plenty already are willing for that. Uniting the Kami and the Karavan - fine, you win. However, I meant something that is actually doable in game ;)

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neiana wrote:Uniting the 4 races is simple. Plenty already are willing for that. Uniting the Kami and the Karavan - fine, you win. However, I meant something that is actually doable in game ;)

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Rebelling is easy, striking a path of your own and getting others to follow is entirely different :D
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zzeii wrote:Rebelling is easy, striking a path of your own and getting others to follow is entirely different :D
Of course, as rebelling is most certainly following everyone else :P

and once more for good measure :P

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Having positive kami and karavan fame is definitely possible. I was 10 points away from having positive global kami fame and had a net positive score between the two before I decided to join the Karavan.

If you get all the spawns, though, getting high fame with both makes things easier. You just have to be selective about your missions.
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neiana wrote:and since I'm the one that can speak for the whole of LoT, I'd like to point out that we are all glad that Mellodi is Mellodi. We are all proud that LoT did NOT help the Karavan.

Thexdane, there are a myriad of comments I could make to you - but you've already proven to be someone that thinks he is right and will see no "truth" other than the lies you disguise as such.

If you want to go at it with my guild, you will do so with me henceforth. Leave the rest of the members out of it.

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i'd like to know what i've told is untrue, everything i've said is true, i don't change my story no matter who i'm telling it to. melodi WAS making derogatory and racist comments about matis in my presence and then DENIED the fact she was and then changed her story about said comments and i'm sure she's even changed her story when she told it to you

also i don't care about your guild nor who i "go at it" with. i'd rather go to the source of the problem instead of someone acting as a secretary. and last time i checked you aren't my mother so i don't see why you think you can tell me what i can or can't do.

i'm glad you like melodi and the lies she tries to tell you, wish you guys all the best. i'm also glad to know that your guild condones racism and accepts members that are racist.
yy48n19 wrote: Yes, I have. And you have certainly demonstrated what kind of person you are as well.

I'm glad to be me.
yeah that's smart and well worded repsonse but i guess when someone goes above your intellectual level it's hard to come up with a good retort.

kinda reminds me of when you were being racist and then when we confronted you, you made excuses and then when we corrected you about being rude you said "yes you were" and then ran off because we were stating the truth and possible ramifications of what your choices lead to.

i've got no issues accepting the consequences of my actions nor what i've truthfully said, too bad you do
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I've requested that this thread be closed as it's passed its usefullness at this point.
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Re: Neutrality

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thexdane wrote: i'm glad you like melodi and the lies she tries to tell you, wish you guys all the best. i'm also glad to know that your guild condones racism and accepts members that are racist.
Well, when we as Trykers were enslaved by the Matis, then you sure as hell better believe we will not like them.

Again, the rest of your comments are pathetically ignorant. I am not acting as secretary, I'm acting as the one in charge of decisions and rules and guidelines of the guild Mellodi is in. Her actions are 100% response based on the conclusions made by the guild as far as the lore is concerned, and as guild leader I am responsible for them and their actions.

If you won't leave them alone when I ask nicely, I'll talk to people that can ask a little less than friendly. Please, if you have issues with my guild, you talk to me - the one that wrote out the rules/regulations/allowances/RACE RELATIONS/etc.

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Re: Neutrality

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DoZ has positive Zoria/Tryker/Kami fame and negative Matis/Karavan fame.

Fyros is still in limbo.

FYI. To whom it may concern. Noting to see here. Move along.
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