Ryzom

Well to be honest the first I actually knew of this 'raffle' was here on these threads. If it's true that BGZ handed a community OP to a kami only guild as her intention, then maybe this shouldn't have happened.
I will say however who can blame BGZ for feeling that these OP's were hers to do with as she please's. How many people helped manage these things and spend almost all of their gameplay time helping people out, how many here b****ing on about the foulplay of this gave up THEIR time to volunteer to help. Damn, they were called community OP's but BGZ sure as hell earned the right to with them as she pleases. So we have a community OP that is now a kami OP, what's the problem....it's one freed up for you...leave here and go attack it duh.

Kodel.

I'm expecting DT, Cralius, Neva, Pero, Jackoba and a couple others to now go and offer to take part in the running of these other community OP's...no? you won't do it? I see.....

Kodel.

bf649ztp wrote:I'm expecting DT, Cralius, Neva, Pero, Jackoba and a couple others to now go and offer to take part in the running of these other community OP's...no? you won't do it? I see...

We are not neutral, so we'd be no better a choice than those currently running it.

Also we manage our own OP's typically to make sure guild members, allies and those with the same beliefs as us in need are taken care of... why would we want to hand out to those who have bad intentions against us ?

bf649ztp wrote:Well to be honest the first I actually knew of this 'raffle' was here on these threads. If it's true that BGZ handed a community OP to a kami only guild as her intention, then maybe this shouldn't have happened.
I will say however who can blame BGZ for feeling that these OP's were hers to do with as she please's. How many people helped manage these things and spend almost all of their gameplay time helping people out, how many here b****ing on about the foulplay of this gave up THEIR time to volunteer to help. Damn, they were called community OP's but BGZ sure as hell earned the right to with them as she pleases. So we have a community OP that is now a kami OP, what's the problem....it's one freed up for you...leave here and go attack it duh.

Kodel.

I'm expecting DT, Cralius, Neva, Pero, Jackoba and a couple others to now go and offer to take part in the running of these other community OP's...no? you won't do it? I see.....

Kodel.

QFT.

if BGZ was kara and gave it to the kara, id still say she didnt do anything wrong. if the kara really want to show their good intentions maybe they should capture the old community op and donate it as a community op that they manage.

vguerin wrote: why would we want to hand out to those who have bad intentions against us ?

and that is one of the big reasons ryzom is dying.

ok my alt guild "apostles" not to be confused with "the apostles" will attack malmont and then when won use it as a community OP.

all can sign up for a cats an I will personally see to it everyone gets there stuff.

seems fair no?

let me know the best times and I will arrange to attack

I am a reformed man, I love community outposts now

vguerin wrote:We are not neutral, so we'd be no better a choice than those currently running it.

Also we manage our own OP's typically to make sure guild members, allies and those with the same beliefs as us in need are taken care of... why would we want to hand out to those who have bad intentions against us ?

Does Soloreaper have bad intentions towards you? Most of the people you'd be handing them out to would be Kami, but any kara who didn't have an OP has always been helped out. It's circumstance that the majority is kami. And DT you'd hand it out to those who would have possible bad intentions because while you were acting as a distributer you'd put your Karavan stuff to one side for a second, but you being you I don't think you could manage it could you?
I suppose you could also liken it to being a CSR but having a very strong factional char as your main playing char for instance... as an example. You put one to one side when you are acting as the other....for instance.

vguerin wrote:why would we want to hand out to those who have bad intentions against us ?

Because it's the right thing to do.

katriell wrote:Because it's the right thing to do.

and that is an opinion not a fact, my mate jesus might have said "love thy neighbour" but didnt say "love thy neighbours so much you give them stuff to help them get powerfull and kick yer ass"

personally tho I thought he was proffessing love for that obscure australian soap, but alas the vatican put me straight

dakhound wrote:ok my alt guild "apostles" not to be confused with "the apostles" will attack malmont and then when won use it as a community OP.

all can sign up for a cats an I will personally see to it everyone gets there stuff.

seems fair no?

let me know the best times and I will arrange to attack

I am a reformed man, I love community outposts now

Certainly Jack, that's the point of community OP's....but be prepared to be giving out cats to mostly kami for most of your gameplay time....Does this sound like a thing Jackoba could do...LOL, no way !!!
Could i do it? absolutely not...it takes a lot of selflessness Jack and i'm not sure you have it in you, but there again I don't either....in fact BGZ and Zysha and helpers have been the only ones to manage to do this, it takes a special homin I think, and Ryzom has so very few of them....
So stop arguing for things you just couldn't do. You could take the community OP's, you could call them community OP's afterwards, but they wouldn't be.

hmmm I could do it

I'd even be willing to let someone audit.

so what time/date?

I will even agree not to use it to buy friends at an attack