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mrshad wrote:Lastly, this affair has shown the darker thoughts from the Arispotle natives towards the Wayfarers...

Please, try not to start some bizarre US vs Europe fight. There must be "fanboys" on both sides of pond (I guess fanboy is someone who doesn't support most critique towards game). And how not taking a strong stand in support of DT (sign petition) shows some dark thoughts towards Wayfarers? Only we have been told is incomplete one sided story of things. Incomplete as both sides refers to private discussions that remains private.

I am sure that there are individual who are not fond of server merge at both sides of pond but I wouldn't generalize.

There are many who are not happy with the current GMs. We are never going to be able to effect the GMs they live behind their wall of secrecy. Many people have had problems with them and find that their behavior is inappropriate. We're forced to either put up with it or leave. That is the only options Nevraxx and Jolt gives us. DT is not the only one to be banned from the forums and i'm sure the more we question their authority we'll be greeted with their smug replies and more silencing.
--Jaeton
Officer of Melinoe

sp4rh4wk wrote:There are many who are not happy with the current GMs.

There are many that ARE happy.

Suck it up.

(Yes, I know, very argumentative. But seriously, what the hell is wrong with you guys).

Just one question that might help clear things up:

If DoubleTap gives written permission (e-mail), can the CS staff display 'their version' of things that happened, if they wish to do so?

Without knowing the full story you can hardly judge things, even tough many people in this thread do so.

IMO this thread is taking the wrong way atm.

The ban is sad for DT, but I doubt that we can change much. I'm sure that he will get the reason for his ban (if he rly doesnt know it) when he asks someone of the CSR team. Maybe there is even a way to solve the problems between them.

All the things said about NA/EE relationship and the bad bad CSR team are just useless.

zyryx wrote:While I agree with all of this, It'd just be nice if he actually -knew- why he was suspended, and/or all the reasons.. As far as I know, from this "one sided story" (yes, I know it is) is that he doesn't know exactly why he was banned..

Either way, it will have to remain a one sided story, because privacy causes it to be a one sided story. You (GMs/CSRs/other people) can't tell us why he was banned.. you can only tell DT that.. but as far as I know he doesn't exactly/entirely know why he was banned (don't quote me on that)

If DT doesn't know why he was banned, then you do not know why he was banned. Hence this petition is pointless and baseless.

You are asking for people to sign a Petition to get someone unbanned, but you have no idea why he was banned?? why on earth would be sign then?

We need a reason to do this Zyryx, if you can't give us one, then dont bother cluttering up the forums with this nonsense.

I see it more as a petition for those of us that know him and respect his actions rather then flaming fanboys who like to live in lollipop land

saeri wrote:If DT doesn't know why he was banned, then you do not know why he was banned. Hence this petition is pointless and baseless.

You are asking for people to sign a Petition to get someone unbanned, but you have no idea why he was banned?? why on earth would be sign then?

We need a reason to do this Zyryx, if you can't give us one, then dont bother cluttering up the forums with this nonsense.

*applauds*

Read DT's side of it and, I'm afraid, it still comes across as petulant whining.

Seems to me that the CSRs are being pretty professional in leaving the matter private while DT is presenting his 'side' of the argument rather exclusively and likely without admitting (or if I'm charitable _realising_) what he's done that's wrong.

The repeated scathing talk of 'fanbois' etc does not elicit any sympathy, nor does harping on about this 'bug' which makes perfect sense to me. Poison damaging over time? Yep, makes sense. Kirosta do the same thing. So why harass and harrangue people once they've told you something isn't a bug?

The talk about 'freedom of speech' is somewhat ridiculous. This is a private, not a governmental enterprise, and an international one at that. Not only does the constitution of the US not apply but, as a private company, Nevrax/Jolt get to make the rules about what goes on within their 'domain' (within limits) the same way a corporate entity can make you wear a suit to work or have you sign NDAs about contracts or whatever.

I should like to hear the whole story, of course, but the DT melinoe side seems incomplete and biased in the extreme, while also giving away hints of what likely lead to the ban.

grimjim wrote:Read DT's side of it and, I'm afraid, it still comes across as petulant whining.

Seems to me that the CSRs are being pretty professional in leaving the matter private while DT is presenting his 'side' of the argument rather exclusively and likely without admitting (or if I'm charitable _realising_) what he's done that's wrong.

The repeated scathing talk of 'fanbois' etc does not elicit any sympathy, nor does harping on about this 'bug' which makes perfect sense to me. Poison damaging over time? Yep, makes sense. Kirosta do the same thing. So why harass and harrangue people once they've told you something isn't a bug?

The talk about 'freedom of speech' is somewhat ridiculous. This is a private, not a governmental enterprise, and an international one at that. Not only does the constitution of the US not apply but, as a private company, Nevrax/Jolt get to make the rules about what goes on within their 'domain' (within limits) the same way a corporate entity can make you wear a suit to work or have you sign NDAs about contracts or whatever.

I should like to hear the whole story, of course, but the DT melinoe side seems incomplete and biased in the extreme, while also giving away hints of what likely lead to the ban.

Agree, thats what I was churfing on about ealier, I don't have a reason to sign the petition, all I have is rumor or someones side of the story.