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Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:45 pm
by fiach
katriell wrote:I did, and I hated it.It differs because it makes RL financial castes relevant in-game.

You know what...if you people like the way Last Chaos is so much, go play it, don't even speak of those corrosive concepts here.

Wow, great comeback.
If you actually played it, you would realise that the IM makes bugger all difference to the game.

No more than people who play Ryzom a short while and dont get it, I would venture you were the same with LC.

But at the end of the day, when ryzom is gone, there will be no Atys for you to walk on but evidently thats OK with you.... BUT, its not OK with me.

I think its very condecending of you to tell me or anyone else, what we can or cant post here...... heres the thing, I want to keep atys going, you would let it die,

If you want it to die, you go play some other game.

Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:33 pm
by nazak07
Better to die with glory then live with shame

Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:35 pm
by slippery
nazak07 wrote:Better to die with glory then live with shame
IF implemented well i think it has great potential, i cannot see shame in finding a way to pump money into a game we all love and want to carry on playing, i don't ever think ryzom will come to P2P tho.

Read my posts and tell me why it is a bad thing for people to be able to buy items that are available to everyone, just a way for ryzom to get more money.

Yaffle

Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:44 pm
by nazak07
eh who the heck buys items they can already get? lol, most things that actually make money are either ungodlike rare, special costumes, leveling up items, and cash shop only items... you guys not actually play more then one cash shop haveing game? lol... Yes if it was only items obtainable in game it would keep the ballance though I doubt it would make too much more money tbh

Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:48 pm
by slippery
nazak07 wrote:eh who the heck buys items they can already get? lol, most things that actually make money are either ungodlike rare, special costumes, leveling up items, and cash shop only items... you guys not actually play more then one cash shop haveing game? lol... Yes if it was only items obtainable in game it would keep the ballance though I doubt it would make too much more money tbh

I have played a ton of games which are P2P, the best results i have seen are games that have item malls which sell things that are ingame for everyone to have but are rare, like paying X amount for 10 sup zun, you can get them already but those who don't have access can save asking around by just buying it.

Special costumes i like the idea of, those who wanna pay real money for special looking armor and weapons can go wild, these looks should be added to the item you already have, so the stats are the same as the weapon you started with but it just looks different. How does that wreck the game?

If things like NPC armor where for sale then i would object but regular items i don't see an issue with, saves lazy people time who want good mats and items, most people in ryzom wouldn't use it but new people coming in wanting to be the best would spend 500 dollars in 2 months then leave, ALOT of older players sit on guild halls of supreme mats and cats, i know i do.

I cannot see ryzom ever becoming P2P but i don't think it is a rubbish idea, if it brought finical stability then its a good thing.

Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:54 pm
by nazak07
I just have a problem with people being able to buy them selves to equal status to someone who's worked hard to earn it lol. Damn rich kids :p . lol

Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:06 am
by slippery
nazak07 wrote:I just have a problem with people being able to buy them selves to equal status to someone who's worked hard to earn it lol. Damn rich kids :p . lol
thats the exact reason i like it, some rich kid can come in, spend a small fortune on ryzom, get bored in a few months and leave, that money he spent goes into development of ryzom which we all benefit from :P

Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:21 am
by nazak07
though we got to deal with him spamming uni saying how great he is.. Imagine sunce times 900 ;D.. lol sry sunce :D

Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:17 am
by vim79
hyaru wrote:If ryzom goes f2p with micro transactions like cash shop the financial state may get better, i mean alot better.

Recently alot of p2p games got f2p and that saved there game.

So this may save ryzom
And also its more fun with more people so.

F2p + cash shop

Ryzom can sell (rare) upgrade items (still can be found in the game but then more rare)
Exp X2 Potions
or even Customize items.

This is my idea what do u think?

great idea :)


For you so called old timers and ego heads that said NO , your fools, there are so many things programed into this game that you lot have never even seen let alone used, take for instance a potion that gives 100+ in constitution, metabolism, intelligence and wisdom for 2 hours.....

cash shop will NOT teach a rich noob about player resists or what melee to use on what mobs.... only time ingame can teach people that.
cash shop/micro payment would work well in ryzom.

more funds = more development, better patches, more staff and events
Isnt that what we all want ??????????????????????????????????????????

Re: GO F2p (SUGGESTION)

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:43 am
by vim79
slippery wrote:I have played a ton of games which are P2P, the best results i have seen are games that have item malls which sell things that are ingame for everyone to have but are rare, like paying X amount for 10 sup zun, you can get them already but those who don't have access can save asking around by just buying it.

Special costumes i like the idea of, those who wanna pay real money for special looking armor and weapons can go wild, these looks should be added to the item you already have, so the stats are the same as the weapon you started with but it just looks different. How does that wreck the game?

If things like NPC armor where for sale then i would object but regular items i don't see an issue with, saves lazy people time who want good mats and items, most people in ryzom wouldn't use it but new people coming in wanting to be the best would spend 500 dollars in 2 months then leave, ALOT of older players sit on guild halls of supreme mats and cats, i know i do.

I cannot see ryzom ever becoming P2P but i don't think it is a rubbish idea, if it brought finical stability then its a good thing.
Lol put it all on the vendors, NPC armour at $150 each bit = 6 bits = $900
these things can be level bsed so you get new options at new levels
if people buy it good luck to them , as you should know yaffle NPC armor just looks good, a good axe can kill noob in Aen HA :)