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Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:54 pm
by mmatto
kibsword wrote:Just a question here...how do we know that he was banned for that e-mail, I would assume it wasnt just that just something else. Just my 2 dappers
It seems that ban is because of jugula thingie. First there have been normal kind of bug reporting and ingame communication, followed by some dev feedback ("Working as intended"), DT post about issue on forums (that contains some argued violations to code of conduct), removal of post, pming in Klients and "desist order", someone else notifying about issue and finally DT posting link to originally deleted post. I probably miss some steps or may have confused something.
I don't know if there was something wrong pinpointing this jugula issue on boards as it is hardly an exploitable bug/feature or how issue was presented on that post.
However, if we don't think about content of that post but what has been done by DT we see here violations against rules of conduct that could result in forum ban i.e. posting a link to the post that was deleted even if that was specifically denied by csr (sending link is about same as posting the content).
This is just an observation. I do not say if rules of conduct are good or bad. I do not even say if DT's actions were for greater good even if opposing direct order of csr and should be considered as civil disobedience or something.
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:01 pm
by basicart
Just incase you are questioning the character of DT and Melinoe heres what one of the best ever (IMO) GM's said about them...
Takashi wrote:To my FBTers. You guys will always have a special little place with me. I don't know if it was you, or if it was me, or some grand combination of the two, but FBT Melinoe was by any standards an incredible group of people. Highly dedicated to testing, seemingly tireless in your ambitious search for bugs, and most importantly, friends to each other, and to me. So to my FBTers, you know who you are. Cheers friends. And we'll meet again, that I can promise you.
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:03 pm
by vinnyq
Not Signed.
But, it's kinda crappy that DT got banned without knowing the exact reason why. They should at least tell him the reason, where they think he did break the rules.
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:05 pm
by basicart
I dont think they can my self, due to there not being one
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:08 pm
by soulsnatcher
I'll just pop this here as some of you may have missed it on the last page
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showpost.php ... stcount=30
Thanks
Souls
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:18 pm
by sx4rlet
glipe wrote:As for freedom of speech, isn't the ideal based on allowing everyone the right to say what they like as long as it doesn't impinge on others in a certain manner? Hence racism, inciting to riot, slander, etc are all still illegal? Also, if you sign an NDA, you can't talk about the issue you've signed off on without being in breach of contract. This board has rules, just like the game, and if you break them you let yourself open to punishment.
Great post Glipe!
I was thinking the same thing, but i could not write it down as nice as you did!
/bow
edit: not signed.
havent heard both sides of the story and therefore cannot judge this.
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:21 pm
by bf649ztp
I think perhaps some peoples search of bugs got a little too tireless, which made the powers above...well...tired.
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:22 pm
by basicart
Then they should disable the bug repost links
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:32 pm
by boneman1
Signed
DT has been around along time ,, be nice and bring em back
Re: Petition to unban DoubleTap from forums and Klients
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:58 pm
by clemond1
Signed.
None of us except DT and some members of the SoR team know exactly what transpired but to my mind, DT has given more to the game than he's taken.