Ryzom

xmancer wrote:
400 hours personally sunk into working on guild fame (yes its my lead activity), carfully planning and balancing various fames, with plans on how and when to approach karavan tribes later in game. a bunch of bugs new since patch 1, and slapdown as a response.

it not only hits me personally, but the entire guild. and its permanent, no way to undo contact, so forevermore fame with *at least* those three tribes is permanently going to suck, and if it can get to kill-on-site it will, just by having one in guild hit the bug once - doing missions of desired fame will hammer down these incorrectly opened up tribes. like the high lvl regions werent bad enough without having tribes go aggro on your entire guild from a single bugged mission.-

since the missions used to be fine, this means that ANY mission i havent tried since patch 1 could potentially add to the problem.

in case the effects of this arent clear... (A) I do a bugged mission, getting fame with a tribe that we dont want contact with (typically a high level region tribe of opposite kami/karavan alignment to my guild) (B) that tribe now shows up in the fame list for *everyone* in my guild (C) jojo does a mission for our normal fame (D) jojo now gets personal bad fame with this tribe (as well as adding to the guild un-fame with them) .... eventually the tribe will go kill-on-site to individuals the entire guild.

the only 'fix' to this is to reform the guild (and i havent tried, so this is a possible fix) with the following likely constraints:

person that did (A) or (C) above and has the tribe on their personal list may not be able to join at all (no idea if this alone will put the tribe back on the guild list - and if it does, then you need to reform guild a 3rd time) even if they can join without harm, they can never EVER do a mission again, since this will hit the tribe, and slam it onto the list of eveyone in guild....

so, there is a workaround.... for 11 million dap, and cutting out people from the guild, or at least from doing missions for the guild. woohoo, way to go nevrax! =(