Ryzom

maccer16 wrote:since infinity left game many kami people come to karavan yes us karavan are becoming stronger everyday soon karavan people will hold all the outposts if we wanted them we out number kami people now and being becoming more and more wise about the pvp ways all the time so kami people watch out

Lewy

Personally I can't wait for that day. Then you can fight amongst yourselves and leave the Kami alone.

maccer16 wrote:.. soon karavan people will hold all the outposts if we wanted them we out number kami people now and being becoming more and more wise about the pvp ways all the time so kami people watch out

i'd say, go for it and take all outposts at attack round (at defense round, go help to get threshold high enough, so owner will keep OP)... or do karavaneers afraid that "the plan" dont go so well

maccer16 wrote:since infinity left game many kami people come to karavan yes us karavan are becoming stronger everyday soon karavan people will hold all the outposts if we wanted them we out number kami people now and being becoming more and more wise about the pvp ways all the time so kami people watch out

Lewy

If you manage to take all the Kami outposts and the spires, what will you do then?

Sorry for asking, its just that in my eyes, the sole aim of taking all the outposts seems very shallow and ultimately unfullfilling especially when the game is so deep.

kgrieve wrote:If you manage to take all the Kami outposts and the spires, what will you do then?

Sorry for asking, its just that in my eyes, the sole aim of taking all the outposts seems very shallow and ultimately unfullfilling especially when the game is so deep.

Some people would say (and do not take this post as my views, but its something I have heard): Once the Karavan have one, the Kami are defeated. Then we can get on with killing the kitin That or the devs think up some more PvP content

kgrieve wrote:If you manage to take all the Kami outposts and the spires, what will you do then?

Sorry for asking, its just that in my eyes, the sole aim of taking all the outposts seems very shallow and ultimately unfullfilling especially when the game is so deep.

Oh I'm sure the Kami would still find ways to keep us entertained...like recently when they declared on 4 OP's and made the attack round right at Season Change so Kara would be "busy" while Kami went and dug in PR. LOL! (btw, those very small Kami Strike forces *did* manage to win a round or two, despite the fact they were *greatly* out-numbered - just imagine what you *might* have accomplished if your priority that day had actually been the OP's and not digging Sup Zun in PR, not to mention if you had had a few more Kami to support you....)

I do agree, however, that losing Infinity has created an imbalance in the Kara vs. Kami proportions. The Kami lost an exceptional and large guild, but I don't feel it was the destruction of "Kami" - it only is if you let it be. From the few that have posted in this thread ("few" as in compared to the players in-game), it appears you Kami are ready to lay down and give up simply because Kara has a few more than you. I certainly hope that is not the case!

This is purely speculation, but I'm guessing there will be more OP's unlocked at a future date. I believe the Dev's are simply monitoring what is happening with the current OP's and will make some "tweaks" along the way to make the battles/OP's even better. But why would they *want* to add more OP's if no one is actually willing to fight for the ones we already have implemented? In most of the cases I've seen, OP's are either "given" to another guild for "Political" reasons...or like these recent fake-attacks at Season Change, war is declared with no actual intention to even *try* to take the OP.

OP battles are what *we* make of them. If you aren't willing to at least try when war is waged, don't complain when you don't get what you want. Don't "give up", Kami's, just get out there and recruit and don't be afraid to fight just because the odds are not currently on "your" side!

blaah wrote:i'd say, go for it and take all outposts at attack round (at defense round, go help to get threshold high enough, so owner will keep OP)... or do karavaneers afraid that "the plan" dont go so well

Plan ? Do we really need a plan, you guys couldn't even win an OP (4 even) with a threshold of 5 on a weekday when most of the US Kara were at work.

You seem to have a personal threshold of 1, you have surrendered already and the war has not even started yet.

vguerin wrote:Plan ? Do we really need a plan, you guys couldn't even win an OP (4 even) with a threshold of 5 on a weekday when most of the US Kara were at work.

so, you say Karavaneers can take any Kami OP any given time ? prove it !! or they just empty words.
You dont actually need to change ownership of outpost... just beat kamists in attack round (as there is "excuse" that all kamists will leave if OP's belong to all karavan)

and i mean "the plan" by "we can take any outpost if we want" saying from karavaneers.

I dont care who owns what outpost, i'm non-pvp neutral... and also that one who eats popcorn during outpost battle... great fireworks

if All OP fall to Karavan aligned hands then that is only good for all homins, for then an atys where homins decide their fate is the option, not dictated by kami and not threatened by Kitin, but an atys of homins. I would far rather prosper with karavan aid than merely exist for kami amusement. With kami influence gone, we homins can concern ourselves with homin matters and priorities.

What on Atys are you homin’s talking about? It is with some amusement i read the belligerent arrogance of the Karavan faithful. The Kami's have not gone, have not given up. The ebb and flow of the Life Giver is the rhythm of our land - our numbers may be depleted and the weaker among us have dropped their home and their friends to side with the invaders but do not be so foolish to assume we are finished. The balance will be restored.

For Ma-Duk!

vguerin wrote:Plan ? Do we really need a plan, you guys couldn't even win an OP (4 even) with a threshold of 5 on a weekday when most of the US Kara were at work.

You seem to have a personal threshold of 1, you have surrendered already and the war has not even started yet.

Hehe DT you really are a comic guy ...it s easy to say those words when you are in the most populated faction and the more powerful in pvp indeed.