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*standing ovation for Mrshad*

Great post, Shad. Thanks.

Your second post Mrshad more than made up for the (In my bluntly honest opinion) suckiness of the first one.

Slowly maybe this community can come around and work together.

Now we just need Nevrax to wake up before its too late.

svayvti wrote:Now we just need Nevrax to wake up before its too late.

I wonder how much more noise we're gonna have to make before that happens....

mrshad wrote:How about I rephrase and say that while there might be parties that do not wish to get involved in a war on either side, any action those parties take to benefit one side or the other are not neutral actions.

That is a given....which is why letting PvP'ers enjoy the fest on Aelius is fine with me....just keep it out of the rest of the areas.

mrshad wrote:Perhaps we can have a second isle of doom. Same layout, same mats...only on *this* isle, the FvF zone is turned off. The kinchers are all 5* monsters, there are a lot more of them, they spawn really fast, and maybe we could throw some kinrey and the like in for fun.

Why make it "super hard". Why not just make it a level of difficulty which is comparable to what is on Aelius. Garvesters should die no more often in thuis land than they do on Aelius.

mrshad wrote: DP on both isles is turned off. We get honor points for killing kitin on either isle.

One way or the other just keep DP the same. And a pee spending an hour in this new land should walk out with the same number of honor points as on Aelius , all things being equal:.

mrshad wrote: If Nevrax wants to reward PvPers more than PvEers, more honors points could be awarded for killing players than kitin, and resource collection on the PvP isle could be more efficient

Unacceptable.....it still results in a player having tio "lose something" if he / she has no interest in PvP.

mrshad wrote:The only equitable solution would be another monument. I have heard something like a library or college suggested as the neutral edifice. I think it is a good idea, but here is the main problem: No artwork!

As I see it the lore provides the answer. The lore tells us that the four races of Atys united to face the kitin threat. The lore also tells su that ecah face is skilled using and making specific weapons. In each land, a monument could be erected to one of the heroes from each race, each of which would hav ebeen a weilder of each special weapon. You could even incorporate the use of honor points which when spent would allow those special weapons to be imbued with power from the spirit of the dead hero.

mrshad wrote:None of this "I want to tell you, but it will spoil the ending" crap!

What load of dung resin. I managed to get to 250 desert dig without ever figuring out those "visual clues" which are suppossed to indicate weather .... rain is invisible...and audible only when weather is not raining but "thundery". Now starting PR Dig and trying to make sense of weather underground. I also keep hearing "tracking isn't broken" but then why does tracking oil and sap near dyron put the "1m" message smack in the middle of the lake.

mrshad wrote:Will there be a non-PvP way to get honor points? Will there be a meaningful way neutral player can contribute to the story, without helping Jena or The Souleater? Will honor points be useful for anything more than third rate equipment (like the kitin invasion rewards) and boosting egos on the Wall of Gank?

Like I am really going to spend 3 + months on an effort with no inkling of whether it's worth my effort. Kinda like going for a job to be a counselor at a summer camp and being told, "we will let you know what your salary for the summer will be on the day you leave."

I think i have found the balance for a lvl 250 mele to kill a lvl 125 nuker....Pull kinchers on um!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nevrax's inability to balance pvp makes pulling kinchers on nukers a nessesity.
Which is truely sad.

mrshad wrote: /snip

*joins Jyudas in cheering and tries to start a Mexican wave*

Heed his words, Nevrax, heed his words...
You can only gain from following such ideas!

Hi guys,

since there already are various threads regarding this topic, I'll be closing this thread.

As previously pointed out, it would become too confusing for everyone who's looking to find answers to their questions, or statements from our staff, and it'd be hard for us spreading information if our answers were getting buried in many different threads.

Please continue discussing this topic in one of the existing threads (where we've also been answering to questions and posting updates), for example:

http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18864 - Some answers & clarification from Nevrax about recent Ep2 & PvP combat related player questions & concerns.

http://ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18836
Episode 2 feedback & poll.

On a side note, please avoid making references to WWII or other sensitive, off-topic political subjects on these public message boards.