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If you use all gentle in your extract, and do not expire the source or explode/gas your source the Kami bar does not move or barely moves at all.

Just because your favorite place to dig is not SIMPLE any more is not a reason to change it. Resources are always and should always be limited.

Noin.

P.S. There are at least a dozen other spots in every region that NO ONE digs at. FIND THEM.

keoni wrote:Most of you are completely and blithely missing the point. This isn't about whether or not KT should be changed - It *has* been changed, so that it drops more precipitously given the same amount of harvesting. At least, those are my observations in the areas I dig.

Any individual harvester in those areas could start digging in ways that might affect the KT less, sure - but that harvester is just as screwed when KT goes to nil, 10 minutes later than it might have otherwise, due to the collective actions of all the other harvesters in the area.

IMO it's the same as it ever was, granted that now we NA merged with EE KT drops faster due to more people digging them areas then when it was just us

basicart wrote:IMO it's the same as it ever was, granted that now we NA merged with EE KT drops faster due to more people digging them areas then when it was just us

Exactly, as well as the fact there are more folks in the higher level areas than ever before. Used to be I saw 1, maybe 2 other diggers in the 250 zones. Now everyone goes there.... because they now need the higher level mats for XP and the fact there is normally folks there to rez when they blow themselves up pillaging the lands.
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keoni wrote:...and still, people who don't dig in FF keep posting to this, as if they had actual personal knowledge of the issue.

EEK! We better all get out of Keoni's game...

I have to admit that they have to fix the kami bar just a tad. They need to fix it up a bit to match the increased number of diggers. FF is not as safe as people may think it is (especially with the roaming mobs). Sometimes there aren't many people there at all and the tolerance bar is down to 0. A bit suicidal to say the least.

Now, I've actually gone into the canyon and found some pretty awesome spot to dig...however, there are 2 named mobs that have given me a run for my money (quite literally). While I do not mind this since I'm enjoying the roaming, it does get to me that the TPs down there do not work to let me tp in there safely when I die or want to come abck for more mats.

Since I seriously doubt they're going to fix the tolerance bar, I believe people may have to start doing what the foragers have been doing in GoC (kill the named mobs, do NOT loot and dig safely for a few hours). If they fixed at least the TPs down there, desert foragers can TP in and out and leave FF alone and let the tolerance bar replenish. The canyon is NOT that bad to dig in (actually I had a bit of fun down there. lol), just need to find the right sptos.

keoni wrote:Most of you are completely and blithely missing the point. This isn't about whether or not KT should be changed - It *has* been changed, so that it drops more precipitously given the same amount of harvesting. At least, those are my observations in the areas I dig.

Actually, that's my experience too. The only place I've harvested a lot in the past months would be Knoll of Dissent, so that's the only area I can comment on. Right after the merge, the Kami tolerance at Towerbridge was almost always below 20%. From what I read on these boards this was the same at all the populor spots. This lasted only for a couple of weeks though, after that the Kami Tolerance at TB seemed to be back to how it was before the merge: I rarely saw it below 50% anymore. Only in recent weeks (could be since patch 71, I'm not sure when it started) did it seem to be continuously below 20% again.

It seems to me like it's back to how it was just after the merge. Could be they changed it a few weeks after the merge and recently changed it back, could be a lot of harvesters took a break from the game and recently came back, I wouldn't know what the cause is.

As for the other resource fields in KoD I've used besides Towerbridge, I've never seen Kami tolerance below 90% for any of them.

ambika wrote:If they fixed at least the TPs down there, desert foragers can TP in and out and leave FF alone and let the tolerance bar replenish.

Now there's a good idea. Instead of changing the Kami Tolerance, how about finally getting all the TPs to work, so foragers don't have such a hard time reaching a lot of the resource fields? Like working TPs in Scorched Corridor might take some of the strain off Flaming Forest, working TPs in Knoll of Dissent might take some strain off Towerbridge, working TPs in Nexus and Heretics Hovel might take some strain off Upper Bog, working TPs in Hidden Source might take some strain off Thesos and Dyron, working TPs in Bounty Beaches and Loria might take some strain off Fount and Enchanted Isle, and so on. (I say "might" because I don't know the forage situations in most of those areas firsthand, but it does seem logical.)

Heh ok so ya really trying to say that they have just nefed FF? I Find this hard to beleave and since we "the people who don't dig in FF" do dig other places and see no change in KT other then more people digging in these choice spots we all love so much.

Edit : Also server is alot more stable then it once was and theres far less resets then we got used to.

sidusar wrote:Like working TPs in Scorched Corridor might take some of the strain off Flaming Forest

Bit offtopic, but Karavan TP at Windy Gate is almost as good as Kami Altar at Scorched corridor. I say almost, because using Karavan TP requires sneaking to get past a nearby bandit camp.