Its a Karavan's World, Too bad Im not planning be part of it.

[rothimar]

You have already stated that you are not going to play Ryzom, so why troll the forums here? If you are going to leave, then leave.

The problem is, if we do try to fix it people like you criticise us - saying we're egotistical and self-centred for for trying to change it, and if we leave we're criticised for becoming part of the problem. You want it both ways - you want us to stay and be miserable. You folks are the self-centred ones, wanting to force people to play a game they're not enjoying.

Fanboys, fangirls and other sycophants always do more damage to a game by loving it so much that they can't bear change and are intolerant when people leave because they can't deal with stagnation.

[zanthar]

Ok Beery, you are now becoming what you said you weren't! A ranting little child IMO! I have sat by and read your posts that started out pleasently enough and then turned into a flame war on both sides. Please, stop trolling other threads because we have stopped coming to your thread to "discuss" your issue of lack of entertainer content. If you want to try to have that content added please post on customer service or anther appropriate thread and do so in an intelligent and concise manner! BTW I am for adding such content, but you have to remember this is Ryzom not SWG so the Devs may see entertainer as non-essential content. This forum is one of the best IMO because it doesn't have the flame wars going like SWG I.E. the Jedi whine fest about other proffs. getting good skills.

[soulsnatcher]

OK guys take a deep breathe and calm it down a little.

[rundll32]

You folks are the self-centred ones, wanting to force people to play a game they're not enjoying.

That's where you're wrong, feel free to leave

[zanthar]

Ok Souls, I wasn't trying to continue this but just put a stop to it! It's getting old! People have been on his thread, there are like 13 pages, trying to give him helpfull info on how to play the game the way he wants with the movements that are already in the game! And if one person says anything he doesn't like he starts throwing fireballs and I got fed up! I.E. Rothimar was trying to help and gets blasted. Rothimar is one of the most helpful and all around nice guys in game I've met so far!

[johntf]

The same people talking the same rubbish personally I'd like to see an end t omajor pvp in ryzom, I hate to break it to most people but outposts aren't even that imporant there's never enough cats for a medium sized + guild to around enough to make a major impact.

As for the who's better organised and who has more people etc I hate to break it to you all but there's no permenant swing it changes by the day and hour who has the advantage.

As for people mentioning trash talking and well I see that on both sides and both sides should agree to deal with it like adults and discipline/ remove the members who continue to act childish then shun them. The system of attack defend also needs serious work. There should be a proper guild ally function so that only allies of both guilds involved in combat can take part and not just randoms so as to keep the foold away.

As the the original post well I dont' see your problem I know you said its not the reason you left but as it was mention about the karavan having better stuff than the kami , utter rubbish. Cats make no different as guilds with high level op's usually have more members than cats by a long chalk, and as for providing equipment that has nothing to do with op's it's just a guild by guild basis and nothing to do with allignment.

As for pvp 6 op battles is nothing I'm afraid, 2 weeks into a game is no where near enough time to make an educated decision on it's long term standing. Frankly the game's never been easier or more enjoyable for new players not to mention saying it's all going to be karavan stupid again, and after 2 weeks lol you have no idea how fast things can change. Not to mention as I already said the karavan will win what a load od cats that aren't much use and thats about it until spires.

I for one will be happy when there is less pvp and battling in this game as all it leads to is sillyness.

Don't even start me on that beeryusa everything about it screams attention seeker, someone in charge should have a word about a trolling of a game he played for 5 mintues and now seem's to think he's knows anything about it or its players.

People if the games not for you fair enough, humanity is varied in it's needs and wants but I caution people just to leave and not make a fuss or craw conclusions too early about the game. Time and time again I see so many people who always come back to this game saying they completely misjudged it the first time around.

[xeraphim]

OK guys take a deep breathe and calm it down a little.

Please please plesae lock this souls..
I cant see it going anywhere but nasty again..

[vguerin]

Please please plesae lock this souls..
I cant see it going anywhere but nasty again..

Nothing here requiring this thread to be locked down... Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even when it differs from our own. Individuals may need to be locked down but not opinions as long as they are not vulgar etc...

The more people that respond to trolls like Beery the more he likes it (he started off as someone who had ideas and got lost along the way), the OP (as misguided as he was) was voicing something he felt needed said and the rest of us twisted it about as usual to suit our own agendas. Souls popped in to remind folks as he should have... locking the thread will serve nothing based on the few posts since dredging this thread back up.

[ashling]

The problem is, if we do try to fix it people like you criticise us - saying we're egotistical and self-centred for for trying to change it, and if we leave we're criticised for becoming part of the problem. You want it both ways - you want us to stay and be miserable. You folks are the self-centred ones, wanting to force people to play a game they're not enjoying.

Fanboys, fangirls and other sycophants always do more damage to a game by loving it so much that they can't bear change and are intolerant when people leave because they can't deal with stagnation.

You know I can agree that katriell can be needlessly brusk at times but he can also be helpfull and supportive. I've seen him be both.

but (there had to be a but)

Why bring back an older thread to argue with him Beery? It comes across as continuing your disagreement with him from your musican/entertaining into another thread for no other reason then he disagreed with you there and from other responces since your post I'm not the only one with that view of why you posted here.

You folks are the self-centred ones, wanting to force people to play a game they're not enjoying.

You folks? So because Katerial says it the rest of us must think it too? Your taring the whole community with the one brush just because of one poster? Or is this just a retort at the whole community because you didn't get the type of support you were looking for in your musican/dancer thread?

I can honestly state I wouldn't expect and certainly don't want you to play a game you don't enjoy. I'm willing to bet the vast amount of the posters on this board wouldn't want you to either. Goodluck with whatever game you do end up playing Beery but you might have more fun looking for that game now instead of needlessly picking arguements on a forum of a game you've made it clear you have no intrest in playing.

[810718]

Yeah might be a bit unbalanced now, tho i will NEVER turn into the karavan-side, the wrong side, the dark side, the the the..... meh

Cats is a issue for a Kamifollower, there is some kamiguilds out there that controls OPs, tho few. 1 stack of q250 cats for me is like X-mas eve or something, bless thoose cats Buuuuut, then im also soloing atm, so its hard to get an OP in my situation lol On the other hand, this is probably just a trend (at least i hope so), the time will come when the Karavaneers will suffer badly for being so "selfish" with thoose cats, the Kamis will grow in number and the old Karavaneers will get weaker, being kara = history..... damn i hope this will happen, and happen soon

One way to balance things a lil might be to implement cats-missions, good rewards for certain missions that makes em valuable... as it is now, missions is crap ... and cats-events! Come on Nevrax, that would be awesome!

Sad to see you go, i hope u consider to come back someday tho, nothing is static, this is unsustainable, i know it, because its to darn many karavaneerguilds holding OP:s atm hehe

Offtopic: any kind karavaneers out there wanna give some cats for free to a kamifollower? Give Mous a shout ingame!