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lootking wrote:all the ticket sellers work,but many of them have requirements you must meet (fame, or level) before they will sell you anything.

Can anyone else confirm this with actual experience? I have level 200+ friends with 100 karavan/kami fame that cannot access a number of TP spots.

Lets get a list of several of these broken ones together and see if anyone has been able to access them or if people are simply blowing smoke.

Nexus, Kami/Karavan
Loria, Karavan
Matis Maze next to Loria, Karavan
Knoll of Dissent, Karavan

usinuk wrote:Wow! You're a dev or know one since you have such inside information! Cool, what else can you tell us? Like, I mean, maybe you could let us know what their solvency is like after losing half the player base in patch 1?

resisting.. urge.. to.. flame.. must.. hold.. back!

Well, I'll admit that the only thing that I based my statement on is common sense, though I never claimed that I knew what was on that list.

Basicly, what I wanted to get across is that it is foolhardy to expect that any number of patches could ever fix all the bugs of any MMORPG.

hklown wrote:Well, I'll admit that the only thing that I based my statement on is common sense

The devs have time and time again shown a remarkable lack of common sense in the development and communcation of this game, so might want to factor that into your assessment.

Basicly, what I wanted to get across is that it is foolhardy to expect that any number of patches could ever fix all the bugs of any MMORPG.

And that's a fair statement on its face value. But when any number of GM-admitted bugs have been around since FBT and still haven't been addressed, the OPs frustration is a lot more reasonable than you're giving them credit for. If you're still playing in a year and game-breaking bugs you reported way back when haven't been addressed, I'd love to see your patience level.

usinuk wrote:Can anyone else confirm this with actual experience? I have level 200+ friends with 100 karavan/kami fame that cannot access a number of TP spots.

Meestor is either low level or thinks he was talking to low level folks. Nexus teleports as well as many others are broke, the level requirements are moot for high level players. If the teleport near the Dragon Lair is accessible to me, I would think they all should be since it's a level 250 area and I am level 230. At least the Karavan ones...

I have bug reported all that I find and mark them to continue checking (No, Nexus was not fixed with the patch that made it a PvP zone... oddly !). I mostly think they tackle one area at a time, but with the changes in Nexus they dispelled that theory. I think it is just not a priority to them at this point to fix broke stuff like this that has existed for a long time. Death porting is not fun when you know there is a teleport close to your intended destination.

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Actually, I have plenty of patience for those kind of things, because my personal view is that once you've complained so much, there really isn't anything more that you can do. And so, I choose to focus on all the other great aspects of the game, and believe me, there may be a lot of bugs in Ryzom, but I still find it very playable and enjoyable.

But then again, thats just me.

usinuk wrote:Now that is a statement that I am tempted to put in my SIG for the permanent amusement for others.

The real amusement is found in your attempt to throw my statement completely out of context. Then again, maybe I should've made it abundantly clear how sarcastic that first line of my post was.

usinuk wrote:Have you considered that perhaps you haven't run across enough game content with a mid-50s character yet to make sweeping generalities about game content and functionality to call others ignorant? Hard to know that many upper level TP sites are outright broken if you haven't spent the hours and amassed the 500K+ dp required to get there after dying again and again only to discover they don't work.

Again, taking my statement out of context. I wasn't denying that there were, and are still problems. And it's not ignorant to complain through the forums.

However, it IS ignorant to beat this dead horse, especially when it is done in such an insulting way towards Nevrax.

I'm not going to sit here and reiterate my position on these issues. Nevrax will come through, and clogging these boards with *****ing and moaning won't ever do damn thing to help the process one bit.

Lukati wrote:I'm not going to sit here and reiterate my position on these issues. Nevrax will come through, and clogging these boards with *****ing and moaning won't ever do damn thing to help the process one bit.

While you remain with your head in the sand waiting on Santa, we will continue to voice our displeasure over long time bugs that remain unfixed. Adding great new stuff like they have been lately is nice, but we also must address the things that are not shiny and new...

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Lukati wrote:Maybe. Perhaps almost as unaware as you are of your blatant ignorance.

Thank you for your valuable input to this thread. Not too many people are as capable as you are of so eloquently demonstrating a point.

If you do, by chance, have anything meaningful to say to me, or to my post, please feel free to do so.. If, however, this is the top of your capabilities, you might wanna hold off clicking the 'reply' button.

I don't much care if folks like me, or my viewpoint. but somebody should seriously start removing post access to the 100% attack postees.

zyran wrote:Are the devs unaware that they (the TP spots) are still broken?

Lukati wrote:Maybe. Perhaps almost as unaware as you are of your blatant ignorance.

Taking your statement directly in context, you flamed someone asking a very, very legitimate question - given we've now had 3-4 differing responses, some of which may have been done in ignorance but at least answered the question. It is also the first time we've had a thread on TP spots being broken any time recently, so 'the ignoran(ce) (of) beat(ing) this dead horse' doesn't apply.

What is ignorant is a player that, based on his SIG, hasn't even been to the bug sites in question trying to cheer loud enough to shut people up. The "*****ing and moaning won't ever do damn thing to help the process one bit" has been proven exactly opposite; its only through continued screaming on the boards that things ever get changed. Want an example? Look at harvesting post-patch 1. Only through the sheer volume of several hundred posts did it get reset to something near balance a day after the original patch. I for one would love to stop bringing things up like this on the board - if there was any track record of them being addressed through tickets. Track record of bug fixes that way is awful, so those of us who still care about improving the game are doing what we need to do to fix it.

And if you want to be helpful, do what I did and start a list of these broken TP sites to see if anyone has ever been able to access them. (Thanks DT for the response...I'm honored to have the most distinguished harvester in the game confirm this particular bug...feel free to list others you've found.)

That is, if you've been to any.

Really this game is so much younger than most, even SWG which blew donkeys when it came out. Most MMORPs DO have bugs and issues when they come out. In fact these days most software does, period. This game, I submit a ticket and they ACTUALLY RESPOND. And in a timely fasion too. Sure, it may take a few hours or days to program a new patch from scratch to fix a few bugs added by the last patch, but you can't just snap your fingers where those things are concerned.

Wow! You're a dev or know one since you have such inside information! Cool, what else can you tell us? Like, I mean, maybe you could let us know what their solvency is like after losing half the player base in patch 1?

Wow, are YOU a dev? Cause really, I'd like to know where you got that 1/2 the player base left in patch 1. Sure, some people left during the WoW beta, but when you consider the huge amount of people that were only on two week trial accounts at that point, it's not surprising that your friends left you.

I've been noticing MORE people than ever in Fyros. And I too have been here since FB. Matisland is the only really busy spot in comparison to the others, because so many kiddies out there want to look like they just stepped out of lord of the rings. Take a deep breath now, be a little objective and think about what goes into making a game like this, promoting it, tuning it, dealing with *****y customers who want you to hand them everything on a silver platter, then going home at night only to wake up the next day and do it all again.

This is their baby, and they want it to work. They are up day and night trying to fix this thing, it's not about how many subscribers they can screw you know. That doesn't make anyone happy or rich, so I wouldn't ***** at them like they were ignoring issues or customers. Every ticket I send I get an almost immediate response, except during times when morons all send tickets simultaneously for an obviously game wide bug. Things are getting done, and there are more lands to consider than your homeland or the Prime Roots areas. The PR bugs really are not as important as fixing peoples homelands first so noobs can get started properly and enjoy the gameplay content that's being added.

YES we should expect, as paying customers, that features promised will be delivered, and Yes we should list bugs and petition to get things changed, I'm just saying... don't be too pissed when PR forage goes down for like a day or so.