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Re: If you do fame missions.....

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:17 am
by anasazi
your post has been translated to german :D

i hope the discussion will now start in the german forum too

http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6039

Re: If you do fame missions.....

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:47 am
by trollbod
the lawless killed me the first time I went near their camp.
but the second time I was able to enter in it and talk to all the npc in it.
it must be a sort of welcome :D

a patrol also killed me one time when I was harvesting.
this tribe is a little strange

Re: If you do fame missions.....

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:52 am
by sprite
weiseman wrote:We'll soon see what start fame we have with them: we're going to have larger scale tribe troops vs guild team fights.
Why not make an event out of it? I'm sure the rest of the Alliance would help out if these people are attacking us for no reason ;)

Re: If you do fame missions.....

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:54 pm
by weiseman
yes, we're already talking about it, but 1st we're starting a few skirmishes to know what we're up to and how to fight homin to homin...
The Alliance will get all details and reports of these attacks.

issue kicked up to nevrax for review. poll up.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:19 pm
by xmancer

Re: If you do fame missions.....

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:39 pm
by twitches
Someone opened up the Kami tribe "Leviers" within our guild which are based in fyros, and as a zorai, my starting fame with the guild was in the negative numbers.

I have done many Fyros missions now and have 30+ from -16 fyros fame, in a hope to make the Leviers tribe welcomer positive towards me to and offer missions so I can increase my standing with the tribe.

Can anyone offer any advice as to how I can make tribe offer me missions?

Re: If you do fame missions.....

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:00 pm
by xmancer
twitches wrote:Can anyone offer any advice as to how I can make tribe offer me missions?
you say they are kami aligned, so kami missions should help
the tribe welcomer should always be willing to give you missions (or at least will be the 1st one to do so)
if they are racially fyro and/or zoraii, then fyros and zoraii missions will have a good chance of improving faction. likewise matis and tryker missions are likely to hurt. none of these seems to be 100% though. this should help get your base-fame high enough for them to talk to you at all...

once you can get missions from the tribe, then which missions are opened depends on your various levels. i do not know at what fame they will start talking to you, nor whether it looks at global, personal, etc, or a combo of all of them...

compare your level to the optimal Q of mats in that zone.

if any harvest line is that level or higher, you should get digger missions if you have combat (fight or magic) then you will get kill and kill-drop missions
if you have crafting you get crafting missions

if you have any line high enough, you should get access to spot-a and tour-to missions.

Did that answer your question well?

Re: If you do fame missions.....

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:19 pm
by twitches
xmancer wrote:you say they are kami aligned, so kami missions should help
the tribe welcomer should always be willing to give you missions (or at least will be the 1st one to do so)
if they are racially fyro and/or zoraii, then fyros and zoraii missions will have a good chance of improving faction. likewise matis and tryker missions are likely to hurt. none of these seems to be 100% though. this should help get your base-fame high enough for them to talk to you at all...

once you can get missions from the tribe, then which missions are opened depends on your various levels. i do not know at what fame they will start talking to you, nor whether it looks at global, personal, etc, or a combo of all of them...

compare your level to the optimal Q of mats in that zone.

if any harvest line is that level or higher, you should get digger missions if you have combat (fight or magic) then you will get kill and kill-drop missions
if you have crafting you get crafting missions

if you have any line high enough, you should get access to spot-a and tour-to missions.

Did that answer your question well?
Well they are based outside Pyr, so are the equivalent to our Icon Worshipers. I can get Kami missions from the tribes abassador, but it does not give me tribal fame until I have become active for the tribe itself.

I have 62 Kami fame atm so I dont think it has a huge impact to generate missions with the tribe welcomer. I guess ill try again at 40 Fyros fame.

Re: If you do fame missions.....

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:38 pm
by xmancer
ah - so you need to be lvl 0 (so you meet that requirement)

and you have 30 (global?) fyros fame or 30 personal for net 14 global?

IWs start at 33 and you can talk to them from the start, so i'd say try at 33 global....
for reference GreenSeeds are a karavan matis tribe, i have 38 global/22 personal with them... and i can get missions from the tribe welcomer

Re: If you do fame missions.....

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:58 am
by jaggarot
FWIW - your personal fame greatly outweighs your guild fame and "caps" (as far as I can tell) at +/-100 - Racial fame, so my Greenseed fame capped at 50 since Matis racial fame with them is 50. Guild fame has no affect on this cap at all.

I suspect negative effects will kick in at varying levels depending on the faction involved, although the majority seem to be around the +/- 50 mark. I can still use Kami teleporters despite an overall -41 (orange) faction with them.

When doing missons always keep an eye on the system window when completing a mission for the first time. That will tell you who you are gaining/losing fame with - and a single mistake will cost little.