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[murmadog]

its your thoughts, merc...

[twina]

its your thoughts, merc...

Yes I did not think you capable of actualy debating and/or posting anything with actual thought behind it. With you it always has to be a little personal comment here or there. It is a real shame mate - exactly the mentality that helps break down a community.

Edit - as an after thought.

With your attitude I dont think it is cats that will drive people away.

[fiach]

Twina has made some excellent points, which all to some degree do explain why the population is drifting away, but the last point really says alot:

but because of a limited population (no matter how great the people are) and the fact that they may not have too many poeple to team with during certain hours of the day

I have been levelling Spear (level 73 so far), I am the only person in Fourways. I was in Thesos last week, it was empty, I remember when you could not get a spot to grind on in Thesos.

Now I dont really mind if I have a team or not, I have guild chat to keep me going too, but newer players want to team and socialise and there is no easy way to do this in Ryzom currently.

So, hug a newb today....you know it makes sense

[xtarsia]

omg..

ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT CATS?!

xD



leave them in.
make them buyable for 50 dappers a crystal per Q. from the temples. simple.

Q50 = 2,500 dappers a crystal, 2.5million a stack

Q150 = 7,500 dappers a crystal, 7.5million a stack

Q250 = 12,500 dappers a crystal, 12.5million a stack

purchasable 100 at a time. easy.

and no, crafters will not be self crystal sufficient like this.

2000 raw mats making Q250 choice gear will yield about 2.5-3m dappers.
2000 raw mats can use around 5+ stacks of cats.


OP produce per week is about 110 stacks (i think may be very wrong lol)

to get 1 weeks Q250 op cat produce, you'd need 1.375 BILLION dappers.


Do it. job done. no more complaints about cats. + dapper sink.

[arfindel]

Understood you think cats are the reason for most people leaving.

However, I disagree firmly. If you look over old posts - most people that have left are the "senior" members - ones that are already "elite" - and realy dont need cats to grind as they have already their main skills up -be it Ele/Heal/Melee. The reason they leave is due to lack of new content being added - not due to cats. And as I said once before the majority that left (according to posts), left due to OP´s being introduced and what they respresent- whether it be cats or elite toys/mats/amrours.

...

Not much interested in the cats problem tbh, bad or good they are in game and I hear this melody about cats good/bad for more than a year now. I have an opinion but that's for myself, people feel extremly different.

But the above opinion is not flawed, is totally wrong.
You see oldies leaving game because they are the one creating bye bye threads. Newbies and medium players don't!.
And most oldies stay years, or leave and come back. A lot of oldies creating threads of bye bye are at their 3rd 4th bye bye thread

While the newbies and medium levels are leaving in a huge (about 4/5) proportion at all times. This is not an impression, is the experience of the last 2 years of playing, of leading a guild, of recruting, of crafting for people from level q50 to level q250.

Ask any recruting officer, any training officer in any guild to see what rate they have in retaining new players.

Old people complain about lack of content, but actually they do not leave. They take breaks, or come to less fervent rhytm of playing, but very very seldom leave.

Those people who stay up to second master, boss hunts, or real supreme hunts are very very little likely to leave.
Instead the game is leaking like 4/5 of the people the advertising brings in.

[fiach]

While the newbies and medium levels are leaving in a huge (about 4/5) proportion at all times. This is not an impression, is the experience of the last 2 years of playing, of leading a guild, of recruting, of crafting for people from level q50 to level q250.

Ask any recruting officer, any training officer in any guild to see what rate they have in retaining new players.

Instead the game is leaking like 4/5 of the people the advertising brings in.

Any ideas Faa on why these new players are leaving?

[twina]

Not much interested in the cats problem tbh, bad or good they are in game and I hear this melody about cats good/bad for more than a year now. I have an opinion but that's for myself, people feel extremly different.

But the above opinion is not flawed, is totally wrong.
You see oldies leaving game because they are the one creating bye bye threads. Newbies and medium players don't!.
And most oldies stay years, or leave and come back. A lot of oldies creating threads of bye bye are at their 3rd 4th bye bye thread

While the newbies and medium levels are leaving in a huge (about 4/5) proportion at all times. This is not an impression, is the experience of the last 2 years of playing, of leading a guild, of recruting, of crafting for people from level q50 to level q250.

Ask any recruting officer, any training officer in any guild to see what rate they have in retaining new players.

Old people complain about lack of content, but actually they do not leave. They take breaks, or come to less fervent rhytm of playing, but very very seldom leave.

Those people who stay up to second master, boss hunts, or real supreme hunts are very very little likely to leave.
Instead the game is leaking like 4/5 of the people the advertising brings in.

If it is completly wrong then why is it that you can read a great deal of posts stating reasons for leaving are due to implementation of OP´s and/or lack of content.

If I were you Faa - go and read the posts again - and then show me how I am wrong - lets be honest here - you are a veteran here - dont tell me apart from posts that can be read as evident proof of why people leave - that you have not had friends that were long term tell you simlar things. I myself have heard enough people in-game say about problems with OP´s and lack of content - can it be possible that I know more people than you or speak to more - I dont think so.

And if you think that so many new players are leaving - maybe it has to do with the fact that there are so many posts saying "goodbye" by veteran players and that there are not enough peolpe here to keep them interested - nothing to do with cats - thats complete rubbish and you know it.

[kekulus]

*Points to Fijoo*

THAT's why there aren't more homins! Look at Fijoo's fat belly!

/tar Fijoo
/TTThhhppppttttt

[murmadog]

...
Q50 = 2,500 dappers a crystal, 2.5million a stack

Q150 = 7,500 dappers a crystal, 7.5million a stack

Q250 = 12,500 dappers a crystal, 12.5million a stack

...

a-a-and... we have some korean bots with dappers for sell some dappers to RL-money... like lineage 2...

[xtarsia]

Not much interested in the cats problem tbh, bad or good they are in game and I hear this melody about cats good/bad for more than a year now. I have an opinion but that's for myself, people feel extremly different.

But the above opinion is not flawed, is totally wrong.
You see oldies leaving game because they are the one creating bye bye threads. Newbies and medium players don't!.
And most oldies stay years, or leave and come back. A lot of oldies creating threads of bye bye are at their 3rd 4th bye bye thread

While the newbies and medium levels are leaving in a huge (about 4/5) proportion at all times. This is not an impression, is the experience of the last 2 years of playing, of leading a guild, of recruting, of crafting for people from level q50 to level q250.

Ask any recruting officer, any training officer in any guild to see what rate they have in retaining new players.

Old people complain about lack of content, but actually they do not leave. They take breaks, or come to less fervent rhytm of playing, but very very seldom leave.

Those people who stay up to second master, boss hunts, or real supreme hunts are very very little likely to leave.
Instead the game is leaking like 4/5 of the people the advertising brings in.

Me = Agreeing

Im only on my first "bye bye thread" so far

Power leveling with or without cats doesent make much difference tbh. - as far as the individual goes....

can easily level as fast or faster without cats than someone who doesent know what they are doing with cats.