Ryzom

Anyhow back to Sesune, you seem to be already dissecting the community and trying to change things and you're still quite new I see.

*sigh*

From my introduction thread:

I usually avoided trying out this game to keep its wonders intact, now that I am bored with rest of the online worlds, I thought why not.

Will a new player really have my know-how's on what Ryzom is? Of course I am a new player. I have tried a lot to avoid trying this game to its full potential to keep it fresh and as a future alternative, but that doesn't mean I haven't tried the game out. With a cousin like mine who keeps on urging me to play with him - I'm bound to know what is and is not here. He has been asking me since beta I recall. Additionally I know the community here very well and have been browsing through these forums for a while too.

Dissecting, oh, please be a dear and read again carefully on what the poll is about. Its not defying the unlimited trial, its great, wonderful and I myself love the move nevrax made. What this poll is asking whether a player should be able to see the mainlands for seven days after they teleport from the unlimited RoS - Lands To Explore map, or not. Only to get a quick glimpse of their home for the next 30 days after all it's their money.

I agree with universal chat and its possible for them to know there is life on the mainlands and such. But... does the mainlands have Goo manifested creatures nowadays? Karavan-kami temple with their faction elements surrounding them(such only showed up during FvF events i figure)? .. to name a few.

Right now I saw some plus points in having the trial only on RoS though:

- No more wasting time and efforts on a trial player who dissapears just as instantly when it comes to guilds and recruitment.

- If the player wants to try out FvF and Outposts, they have to suscribe... this also is a limitation that disallowes players from trying that out - after all it IS a feature of the real game and a trial should partially allow them to experience some, thus the trial.

What I'm saying is both the mainlands and the RoS are different and unbalanced. The mainlands may have outposts, temples, FvF, events and many more..but while RoS has elements that mainlands atm doesn't have. Its only natural that the mainlands to have everything from the trial plus more extra content.. but right now that is not the case. The both function differently and some may not feel comfortable on the mainlands after they get there - in other words isn't an extra 5-7 days after the unlimited trial on RoS better than our forums getting flooded with people demanding refunds, or spreading around the word that they may feel cheated? just an example. Both lands should not ever be too apart.

I voted No.

I fail to see how the island is different from the mainland. The only extra thing that the island has is a tutorial.

The mainland has much more content than the island because it is a sandbox - people create their own content and thus, there is no end to it.

Nevrax is offering for free more than most, why do we have to secondguess every single move they make?

well if you can tell me what games you can do a free trial on where you can get to experiance all of the game and its machanics , i would agree with you but the fact is that there are none. and getting to the mainland will do you no good , because your hp and magic lvls are too low to go exploring anyway. building these stanzers up take time. so stop your crying and enjoy the free trial offer . with your attiude i hope you dont sign up for an account and this game will be a little better. have a nice day

motan wrote:I voted No.

I fail to see how the island is different from the mainland. The only extra thing that the island has is a tutorial.

The mainland has much more content than the island because it is a sandbox - people create their own content and thus, there is no end to it.

Nevrax is offering for free more than most, why do we have to secondguess every single move they make?

Yep, exactly my thoughts.

helomax wrote:with your attiude i hope you dont sign up for an account and this game will be a little better. have a nice day

Congratulations, you are the first poster in this thread to lower yourself to the level of personal attacks.

with your attitude i hope you dont sign up for an account and this game will be a little better. have a nice day

Oh dear me, was that even directed to me? be like that, i'm very very deeply wounded - maybe I had this community wrong. I'm not making this game look bad i'm just trying to look in to the best interest of new potential players who may have no mmorpg experience, or people that just want to get a quick glimpse at what the mainlands are, or veteran players who may just want to check out what has changed before that make the decision to re-suscribe... this is not hindering the free trial, its a second trial on the mainlands to bolster the confidence of the customer - not a player. Nevrax is marketing a gamming entertainment. A product. May it be a game.

Also consider that this poll poses hardly any threat.. just just a friendly poll on a friendly forum.. there is no need for attaking me. Do you honestly expect nevrax to follow this poll? *sigh*

- Sesune

As a diehard recruiter like so many others, I like the idea of knowing that the person is on a paying acct when he/she gets to mainland.

On another note as to whether RoS is like mainland or not...

A newbie island is developed and should be for Teaching New Players the concepts and structure and skills of the game. Period. People who are playing mmo's should know this. I personally feel this was something that many complained about for years about SoR and now it is fixed. I'm geeked! I think it is great. Plus they have the universe channel to ask questions in. All good. I played for several hours today on the NPE to get a feel for what was up with it and thought it was enough like mainland to give them an idea of what to expect while also being an awesome tutorial. That is what is needed and that is what they have.

In regards to putting more content into mainland... ack.. no.. (unless you mean bringing back kitin invasions.. I love them) I HATE mission based games. Leave SoR mainland alone. If someone wants a fully mission based game.... this is not the one for them. We all have different likes and dislikes. That is why there are so many diff mmo's out there. There will be one for those that do not like SoR, and there will be those that like it.

sesune wrote:maybe I had this community wrong.

It's just Helomax. Take a look at his previous posts.

In regards to putting more content into mainland... ack.. no.. (unless you mean bringing back kitin invasions.. I love them) I HATE mission based games. Leave SoR mainland alone. If someone wants a fully mission based game.... this is not the one for them. We all have different likes and dislikes. That is why there are so many diff mmo's out there. There will be one for those that do not like SoR, and there will be those that like it.

Making mainlands mission-based will ruin the game itself, ryzom is not meant to be such a game. Personally I hate mission based games, It's safe to say I'm a mmo vetran as I have Played EQII, EVE Online, WoW, FF XI, GuildWars, RF-Online, SWG and Lineage 2 to name a few. But why did I finally choose to come to Ryzom? untill now I was observing SoR and here I can finally play on my own phase camly with no headaches or grief, I never had made a full suscriptions here but I have definately been on the mainlands on more than one occation.

What I'm talking about are Goo creatures for example, they were simply removed from the mainland cause it caused a technical conflict? umm I donno. That to me feels like a silly excuse ^^" so now they brought goo creatures on the new starter camp, why not re-introduce those poor unfortunate goo manifested creatures in the mainlands as well?

goo is scary