something fubared in PR

[lootking]

source is q200, my level is 54

tried to use gentle q60 action , got a message telling me im not using a high enough quality stanza

switch to gentle 160 (im 153 lake), i can access the source, but i fail repeatedly in trying to pull form it.


i hope this is a bug, and not the new way it is

[zumwalt]

unable to play now that i am back to work (went home and patched during lunch, bought new highest packer, etc)

but can you do me a favor, try your hravest 160 on a 150 source, see what your success rate is without using specialization (so you see your percent success)

i am personally curious if they pulled one of those (your not high enough for this source level) deals..

for me, my max is q100, so if i hit a q150 source, would this mean that i am not powerful enough to harvest it now?

[overide1]

doesn't make any sence to me. as far as i know there are no PR source nodes with a max Q of 50 or 100. so it would be impossible for anyone to level up in the prime roots.

i might go down and check it out but i usually wait a few days after a patch before i sign on to let things calm down. since i am mainly a forager the patch before todays gave me a chance to catch up on some reading and sketching. i took one look at all the agro and said "umm.... nope!".

[zyran]

This is one of the lamest stealth nerfs they have sprung on us so far... so much for a content patch -- Nevrax seems incapable of doing anything except nerf the game.

For those who haven't had the pleasure of experiencing this nerf first hand, you now must meet a minimum level to harvest in prime roots. Fortunately, some people have already gained levels in pr harvest before Nevrax sprang this pos nerf on us, or else it would not be possible to gain levels in pr harvest at all. But for those of you who didn't, you currently must care plan, or pop sources for an experienced PR harvester for 40 levels to get from 50-90 skill, at which point you can harvest in 1 or 2 roots zones. Wastelands is now only usuable by maybe 10 folks on the entire server.

Nice of them to mention this change in patch notes wasn't it? I am quite frankly sick beyond belief with the management of this game. I had looked forward to the first 'content patch' - and find to my disgust yet another lame ass nerf patch full of bugs. I guess it is time to join the 30% or so of the players of the game and quit.

Good Job Nevrax.

[overide1]

so, wait...

first they change the forage system to allow us to harvest more mats to meet demand. now, they limit the places we can actually forage by our level...

sigh...

if this is true i am freaking speechless.

[zukor]

I think this calls for some clarification by those in the know. Cerest, what is the deal here? Is there an undocumented but significant change to harvesting?

Thanks.

Doctor Z.

[raynes]

This is one of the lamest stealth nerfs they have sprung on us so far... so much for a content patch -- Nevrax seems incapable of doing anything except nerf the game.

For those who haven't had the pleasure of experiencing this nerf first hand, you now must meet a minimum level to harvest in prime roots. Fortunately, some people have already gained levels in pr harvest before Nevrax sprang this pos nerf on us, or else it would not be possible to gain levels in pr harvest at all. But for those of you who didn't, you currently must care plan, or pop sources for an experienced PR harvester for 40 levels to get from 50-90 skill, at which point you can harvest in 1 or 2 roots zones. Wastelands is now only usuable by maybe 10 folks on the entire server.

Nice of them to mention this change in patch notes wasn't it? I am quite frankly sick beyond belief with the management of this game. I had looked forward to the first 'content patch' - and find to my disgust yet another lame ass nerf patch full of bugs. I guess it is time to join the 30% or so of the players of the game and quit.

Good Job Nevrax.

First of all this first patch was not a "content" patch so to speak. It adds some new features, fixes some bugs, upgrades the look of towns, and adds improvements to range combat. The content patches are going to be on the 21st of December and the 6th of Jan. They have said this since they announced any dates pertaining to the second update.

I'm trying to understand something, so answer some questions for me.

1) Why should you be able to harvest in PR below max level?
2) Why do you need to harvest in PR as opposed to other places?

[zyran]

Now on to your cry of nerf. Let me tell you a little known secret. The Prime Roots are for designed for players who are at the very minimum level 200. And in reality they are designed as an area for players who have reached the 250 level cap. So tell me why exactly there is a problem putting a min level requirement on an area that most players do not belong in anyway?

Hearing the same old complaints from underlevel players not being able to go reap the benefits of the hardest, top level area of the game is getting VERY old. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE FIGHTING, EXPLORING, OR HARVESTING in the Prime Roots until you are near max level. The only thing the devs have done wrong so far concerning the roots is to made it way to easy early on.

Talk about misinformation. Tell me raynes, how much experience would a level 250 group gain in abyss of ichor? Answer: zero. If you are gonna post, please have a clue what you are talking about. I am level 200 in melee, and close to 200 in harvest. I didn't just wander into roots straight off noob island. Not to mention the simple fact that this nerf requires high level harvester to exist in order for future players to gain harvesting levels. At the rate folks are quitting, who is going to be there to level up those future players? I am also quite curious what you think a MAX LEVEL player would want with level 150-200 mats. I fully supported them making roots more difficult, but this change adds NOTHING to the game.

[raynes]

Talk about misinformation. Tell me raynes, how much experience would a level 250 group gain in abyss of ichor? Answer: zero. If you are gonna post, please have a clue what you are talking about. I am level 200 in melee, and close to 200 in harvest. I didn't just wander into roots straight off noob island. Not to mention the simple fact that this nerf requires high level harvester to exist in order for future players to gain harvesting levels. At the rate folks are quitting, who is going to be there to level up those future players? I am also quite curious what you think a MAX LEVEL player would want with level 150-200 mats. I fully supported them making roots more difficult, but this change adds NOTHING to the game.

Ok so if you are after experience, why exactly do you need to harvest in the Prime Roots? There are many places above ground that you can get 250q mats very easily. If you are saying you need to get experience in Prime Roots foraging, why do you need experience in that instead of one of the other four types of harvesting?

As for why a max level player would want to harvest in the pr for q150-200mats... Maybe to get the best quality mats to make some of the best armor the game can provide? Maybe at high level that is what you are meant to have not before.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why exactly they need to be harvesting in the Prime Roots anyway?

I'm also wondering what is your harvesting level in the area of your homeland? For example if you are a Zorai what is your harvesting level in Jungle foraging? Is it 200 or 250? Or did you just drop that and head right inte getting the best mats in the game?

[zukor]

As I recall, harvesting splits at level 50 to desert, forest, etc, and one of the branches is prime root. Now this is really a catch-22 if it's correct, because the players who are at level 50 prime root cannot get any experience harvesting in prime root, and thus cannot ever get to a higher level (unless they go partied with a very high level harvester and do care stanzas or something like that).

Again this needs clarification to see if it's correct, and if it's something that was intended.

Doctor Z.