patch crash with ATI

[rgibbons]

After a patch, when I get to the relaunch screen and click on 'relaunch' I get taken to a seemingly infinite window repeating '<path>\client_ryzom_rd.exe Access is denied'. I have let it go for hours and it has never stopped. With my Nvidia card I can just alt-tab out of it and it goes away. With my Radeon card it crashes my computer (self-reboot) just about instantly. Any one else seen this or know of a solution? should I have to switch to D3D to patch? Thanks,

Laura - Tryker Warrior/Mage

PS: I play using my Nvidia (64Mb) card just fine, but I bought a Radeon (128Mb) card specifically for this game, and it irritates me that it is sitting on the shelf.

[zarzen]

Myself and I think most other ATI users out there have settled on D3D for some time.

I just disable Vertex Shaders and Pixel Shaders, as I've been told these things are not enabled on ATI cards. I know some ATI users who haven't disabled them, though.

Even at fairly high detail and resolution, with my radeon 8500LE(128mb), I only have load times (not the kind with the intro page, the "please wait" kind) when shifting into new areas, and even then, only crowded ones.

[navra]

Myself and I think most other ATI users out there have settled on D3D for some time.

Speak for yourself zarzen. Many of us using ATI cards (mine is a 128 Mb Radeon 9000 Pro) cannot run the game usind D3D. Open GL is our only option to keep from constant crashes. Nevrax has made a deal with Nvidia and has little or no interest in fixing the game to run with ATI cards.

[gddss]

Speak for yourself zarzen. Many of us using ATI cards (mine is a 128 Mb Radeon 9000 Pro) cannot run the game usind D3D. Open GL is our only option to keep from constant crashes. Nevrax has made a deal with Nvidia and has little or no interest in fixing the game to run with ATI cards.

You should also speak for yourself Navra. I have a Radeon 9200 Pro 128MB and I run mine in D3D and have way less problems than when I was running in OpenGL. Admittedly, when the game first came out, I could only run in the OpenGL, and I don't know what they have done exactly to fix this, but one day I decided to try it again and voila. I have rarely have lag (and even when I do it's very little) and I no longer have to re-enlarge my window and move my boxes around anymore. So in the beginning, the NVidia deal might of been a valid issue, but I think no longer. I think Nevrax is smart enough to realize how important it is to include both G-Force and Radeon with as many of both users are out there. Oh and as a side note, I don't crash that often either. I can usually play for anywhere from 5 to 8 hours with maybe one crash.

[zarzen]

I tried OpenGL at first as well, at the commercial launch, and it was far less stable, even at lower detail levels. In fact, usually I crashed about 5 seconds past the loadscreen going away.

It's important to bear in mind just what ATI cards we're talking about, I think. Then there's the matter of drivers. Other than that, it's useless to tell me you have your finger on the pulse of the ATI user community more than I do, I mean, who cares.


Telling him to try harder with OpenGL would have been well, a little dumb. So I suggested he try D3D, which obviously works best some of the time.

[rgibbons]

I have a radeon 9000 128Mb. Sorry I didn't put that in earlier but it came sans-box. I bought it 'el cheap-a-reeno' so I got nothing but the card in, if I remeber correctly, a modem box. At any rate, I have the latest drivers from ATI website, as well as directx9c. I usually only play for 60-90 minutes at a time, and I can play with D3D or OpenGL for that period of time. The crashes happen when I patch. It may be completely unrelated to SoR and be in my OS or something. I just wondered if anyone else got the endless errors after patching, which I also get with my Ge-Force 440 MX 64mb. The endless errors crash my PC when the radeon is in, but not with the Nvidia. Thanks for the replies though.

Laura - Tryker