If you have not played EQ2 yet..

[friedel1]

First i agree with most even though i quit Ryzom i wouldnt dream of bashing it . Why should I it wont change anything and as you can see from the reaction , people still like the game .

Yes its annoying to spend money on a game that you feel let you down but at the same time one has to ask oneself how hard did you try to work with the changes ? . I know i didnt but im stubourn .

If you think another MMO is that good then spend your online time in that game instead of wasting it to come here preaching to people who realy couldnt careless or maybe its not as good as your making it out to be ? .

Anyway what ever game people play the objective is to have fun and if your doing that then the game works for you .

Lifes to short to spend it being angry so just get on with it and enjoy it

Goffa

[jokque]

My active MMO's : http://unlife.com/extern-use/mmo.jpg

and i thought i had played alot of mmorpgs :O


Anyways, EQ2 isnt that bad, other than us europeans getting shafted with the patch downtimes (4 hours during prime time, yay) and them removing the "UK preferred" tag from the runnyeye server (whick soaked up all the europeans that started playing before they removed the tag and such will make it even harder for new europeans to find teams when they are spread over 15 servers) the game had a good launch.
In fact, after playing it to lvl 20, the only bug i have encountered is that sometimes mobs are invisible, but if you just let them attack you without having anything targetted you will get them targetted and thus allowing you to kill them anyways. Other than that theres hardly any bugs, nor any lag.
DUnno how long i will play it though, it has the same lvl rate as EQ1, DAoC, etc (slow and boring) so ill most likely move to WoW with its diablo2-ish leveling rate (10 days /played to top lvl if you decide to race) or maybe back to SoR as i got a free month today for some reason

[aluinie]

Well tried eq2 myself over last few days the game is good has its faults too. Both Ryzom and eq2 have their plus anad minuses community wize ryzom beats eq2 hands down the people in ryzom are always friendly and helpfull.

If you like playing ryzom or eq2 then enjoy it just dont bash them over the head screaming this one is better or not its upto the individual to decide me i like both im staying with both but ryzom is my prefered choice. Thats my opinion and will differ from others but at the end of the day its your money u pay for the game u prefer to play.

[glipe]

Sony employees should have better things to do than coming on and touting for a game that'll probably do well all on it's own. Me, I'll just stay here and enjoy what's going on, regardless of who I work for.

p.s. jen142768712 or whatever: are you jk's wife?

[bgrifter]

4 years of patch one ok... but people have been playing for 4 years, something must have been done right then?

Lack of better options, familiarity and ingame friendships kept most of the people I know around. Eventually that ceased to be enough, mass quittings during the GoD era and beyond just worsened the problem. This time around the rules have changed, you can play EQ2, or WoW, or Ryzom, or Guild Wars, or a myriad of other options. Considering SOE's tendancy to insult the intelligence of their customer base as you mentioned, I can't imagine why given options and a blank slate someone would even consider EQ2...

[hivewasp]

Lack of better options, familiarity and ingame friendships kept most of the people I know around. Eventually that ceased to be enough, mass quittings during the GoD era and beyond just worsened the problem.

Eh... I left before GoD, I left at my PvP servers during PoP; PvP was just not doable anymore and people wanted to have the uber gear so teams went to hell and people crossteamed just to be able to survive in those planes. I moved to the european servers (VS) and left after a month out of sheer boredom; EQ 1's PVE was boring, quests were boring, and after years of play there was no discovery effect anymore... new planes? Weee... great, always the same thing with a different look.

GoD was an additional time sink that even the most addicted guilds refused to play

This time around the rules have changed, you can play EQ2, or WoW, or Ryzom, or Guild Wars, or a myriad of other options.

Mmmmh... EQ has not been alone for 4 years, UO still has players, I think AC1 does too, Anarchy Online, Dark Age of Camelot, Neocron etc were all present these last 2-3 years.

Considering SOE's tendancy to insult the intelligence of their customer base as you mentioned, I can't imagine why given options and a blank slate someone would even consider EQ2...

Blizzard is more insulting in my book... they know nothing of network security (what did they give to the people who played the special servers on Diablo 2 when they were hacked?) They know nothing of originality, they are basic to the extreme... DAOC? They can't balance stuff, and bring a solid nerf in each patch... and from time to time a mega nerf (berserkers, animists, rangers). Electronic Arts (UO and EAB) well they created facets on UO, Richard Garriott left the game altogether, and they closed Earth and Beyond and Motorcity online. Sorry but in this market you won't find a single company that will not disappoint people at some point.

I can chose to spend my time the way I see fit. SOE's made mistakes, all game companies have made mistakes... maybe I'm in a game for the long run? Maybe I just want to spend my time having fun, and if things turn the wrong direction they won't see me there anymore. All games I have played have had good momments until something went wrong with them in MY opinion.

I had a great time in UO until the facets, I had a great time on Rallos and Vallon Zek (EQ) until Planes of Power (edit: put Portals, those who ran BBS's probably remember the original PoP), I had a great time Arena Duelling on Anarchy Online before the OE patch, and so on... for Ryzom I can't say I've had a great time besides the exploration or running from Tryker to Matis/Fyros; I've been waiting for the advertised stuff and grinding meanwhile, or roleplaying with people... but other games allow me to do that. Maybe in a couple of months, it was the same with Anarchy Online, the first months were pretty bad (although AO had more variety in mobs, areas, more challenging duels, lots of roleplay props aka clothes - glasses and useless accessories - and even a couple disco bars).

I'm not praising SOE, far from it. I hate the company, not the game. If you chose to refuse playing a game because it comes from a specific company you may lose an opportunity to find a game that suits you. You have to dissociate the CSR, Devs and Company: some of these people made the game with 'love', they want it to be succesful because it's their creation, while the company is only interested in money. The ones who want the money are the ones giving directions sadly. But well, I am no "fanboi" I'm an opportunist/edonist who takes pleasure where it can be found as long as it can be...