Come to Pyr and Meet Your Destiny

[jdiegel]

There will likely be attendees bringing news back to each of the lands, however, so you will know the goings on of the summit.

I wouldn't expect those who couldn't attend to automatically commit to any agreements made in their absence.

[Takashi]

I wouldn't expect those who couldn't attend to automatically commit to any agreements made in their absence.

We hope that all parties, present or not, will consider the full weight of what will be discussed before commiting to any uncertain agreements. The meeting will be to discuss cooperation between the guilds, among all races. If you prefer not to aid in the common defense, then you will not be asked to. You are not bound by the word of your brethren.

[vguerin]

Once again I feel I must voice my outrage at this flimsy excuse for poor security in such a time that the animals seem their most unstable. Other races have more difficulty then ever travelling and we risk losing our leadership in a past enemies liar.

Ask the Leviers how they felt losing their leader to the Frahars recently regardless of the belated rescue. Sending our own leadership to Pyr we have to rely on the same security is outragious !

If Mynias the Watcher has information that is important to the Matis, maybe his mighty Fyros escort can escort him to our borders and cities to tell us in person. We have no reason to take anyone on good faith at this time. We can no more go to their lands for aid then we can for this meeting in the numbers required to defend ourselves.

There is no guild speaking for Matis... Come to us and we will hear you out and maybe then we can collectively choose a direction together, though I cannot ever see an alliance with Kami Lovers.

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[raynes]

Unfortunately the Fyros security forces are already stretched thin in providing defense for the summit itself. Were there an abundance of warriors, they would surely provide protection in the wilds, but every able bodied Fyros warrior will be needed to secure Pyr itself. There will likely be attendees bringing news back to each of the lands, however, so you will know the goings on of the summit.

So your telling me the Fryos government can't provide a group of 5 or 10 guards to go along with Mynias as he travels from land to land carrying his message?

It seems rather funny that the Fryos government sees nothing wrong with having other nations risk the lives of their own citizens to attend a meeting, yet refuse to have one of their own risk theirs.

If the Fyros governement sees this meeting as having extreme importance, they will either send people to other lands to discuss the matter. Or if they can not do that, the Fryos people have an Ambassador in each of the other races lands. That Ambassador has an open line of communication with the Fryos governement. Therefore it should not be a problem for the Ambassador to rely the messages of the meeting to those in other lands.

I'm sorry but this entire thing sounds way too much like "do it our way or none at all". The lack of ability of the Fryos government to plan a meeting with proper security and proper transportation to and from the event only displays just how waek the Fryos government is. It also demonstrates to me that in no way should anyone listen to the race that was careless enough to get us into this mess in the first place.

Either do something to make the meeting or the information of the meeting accessable to other races without their risking lives, or consider your actions a bad representation of how you government can handle crisis situations.

[jdiegel]

We hope that all parties, present or not, will consider the full weight of what will be discussed before commiting to any uncertain agreements. The meeting will be to discuss cooperation between the guilds, among all races. If you prefer not to aid in the common defense, then you will not be asked to. You are not bound by the word of your brethren.

Sorry, I refuse to be muscled into any agreement, period, especially one put together under such lopsided conditions. Set up a summit where all parties can be represented equally and we'll talk.

[Harbinger]

I have no message to deliver, I am no seer, no prophet. I had hoped that the utter destruction of our peoples and the loss of the old lands would be enough to convince us all that cooperation would be necessary. The kitin have followed us to these new lands. Their threat is a dark gloom lingering on our horizon. If we can not get beyond petty racial hatreds, then what chance have we against these fully unified monsters? They attack with one mind and with one mind we must defend.

Let us move beyond placing blame and take up arms, side by side, in a common defense of our new homes. We will meet in Pyr as planned, and I pray that those of you who can make it will come to represent your guild.

Keep in mind all who question this meeting, that no matter where we meet, others will need to travel to attend. And I have seen no others offering to host such an event. This meeting must go on as planned, but I would be eager to attend were another summit held in another land.

I pray that we will meet at the summit.

In Solidarity
Mynias

[jdiegel]

If it wasn't for the fact that Nevrax made this an official event it wouldn't bother me at all. If Nevrax is going to have game wide events that potentially can effect every player in the game than they should make it accessible to all parties involved. All they would have to do is set up a small area that's kind of like a reverse newbie zone that everyone can port to, but can only return back to their own land from. I can not give my support to any summit of this nature where every homin of each race isn't represented equally, even if that summit was in Zora itself.

I'm sure you have the best intentions in mind, but there sayings out there about good intentions.

[raynes]

I have no message to deliver, I am no seer, no prophet. I had hoped that the utter destruction of our peoples and the loss of the old lands would be enough to convince us all that cooperation would be necessary. The kitin have followed us to these new lands. Their threat is a dark gloom lingering on our horizon. If we can not get beyond petty racial hatreds, then what chance have we against these fully unified monsters? They attack with one mind and with one mind we must defend.

Let us move beyond placing blame and take up arms, side by side, in a common defense of our new homes. We will meet in Pyr as planned, and I pray that those of you who can make it will come to represent your guild.

Keep in mind all who question this meeting, that no matter where we meet, others will need to travel to attend. And I have seen no others offering to host such an event. This meeting must go on as planned, but I would be eager to attend were another summit held in another land.

I pray that we will meet at the summit.

In Solidarity
Minias

So what is the difference between going to a summit in other lands, and going to other lands to carry the message that was discussed in the meeting? Or an even better questions is how will you get to these other summits? You certainly can't make it alone through the Prime Roots.

You speak of a new threat and of the Kitin attacking us in the future. Have you no concept of the fact that on the voyage to Pyr many lives WILL be lost to the Kitin. It's not a matter of them invading, it's a matter of us walking right on to their diner plate as we attempt to get to your summit.

You talk of unity, yet you give the message "come to our meeting or be left out". It's been very clear that many people simply can not and will not take this voyage. Even if some wanted to, it is just not possible. If you were truely interested in unity then you would figure out a better way to have such a meeting. You would get your government to use their ambassadors in each land to discuss this matter.

The Kitin threat might be getting larger by the moment. But holding meetings that are impossible to attend is no way to deal with the issue. I said it before and I will say it again.... If you insist on holding this summit where the only way to get to it is to sacrafice the lives of many other races citizens, then you are bordering on creating a very cold relationship between the Fryos and memebers of the other races. Furthermore having a meeting that will discuss a warning system where 3/4's of Atys citizens can't attend will end up with a warning system that just doesn't work.

[vguerin]

If it wasn't for the fact that Nevrax made this an official event it wouldn't bother me at all. If Nevrax is going to have game wide events that potentially can effect every player in the game than they should make it accessible to all parties involved. All they would have to do is set up a small area that's kind of like a reverse newbie zone that everyone can port to, but can only return back to their own land from. I can not give my support to any summit of this nature where every homin of each race isn't represented equally, even if that summit was in Zora itself.

I'm sure you have the best intentions in mind, but there sayings out there about good intentions.

(Takes off Matis RP hat for a minute)
You either take part or you dont... Event aside, if there is truly no way for you to get there ensure those that are travelers speak for you. I am sure C.P. will be there to represent the Zorai.

[RP hat back on]
We trust the Zorai no more than the Fyros... Those following the ways of the Kami will rarely be trusted as a civilization. However, I have stood side by side with some of the great warriors and mages or all races and know there to be some whose word can be trusted.

Which of these Fyros Guilds can stand by this call and lend creedence to this meeting ? I am sure there are many guild throughtout the lands waiting for this information. We may be able to put our differences aside for a common reason, not without the strongest of Fyros represented can we trust our emissaries so far from home.

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[raynes]

You either take part or you dont... Event aside, if there is truly no way for you to get there ensure those that are travelers speak for you. I am sure C.P. will be there to represent the Zorai.

You can't imagine how you made me cringe when you said that. That is exactly what needs to be prevented. One guild represeting an entire race. We are walking down a very dangerious path when we have meeting where certain guilds are speaking for everyone.