I cannot get experience EVEN IN A TEAM

[jjm152]

well, i's a fact too that spells who are below the lvl of the mob have an exactly zero chance of working, like melee skills that only work upto certain qualities
and seeing how i was in a group yesterday that very successfully, blinded, stunned, crazed, and as needed feared our mobs i can only assume that your spells were perhaps near, but still below the mob lvl

And... you dont see a problem with the fact that I can join a team and not contribute... being the second highest member of the team?

Melee was lower than me, they got XP. How come its easier to hit something (in some folks cases, 50-60 levels higher than them) than it is for me to a land a spell on something 17 levels higher than me.

No one sees a problem with this? Nothing at all?

[zzeii]

And... you dont see a problem with the fact that I can join a team and not contribute... being the second highest member of the team?

Melee was lower than me, they got XP. How come its easier to hit something (in some folks cases, 50-60 levels higher than them) than it is for me to a land a spell on something 17 levels higher than me.

No one sees a problem with this? Nothing at all?

you said the group was 80-100

and some cases 50-60 levels higher than the lowest level team...

Putting the mobs around lvl 130-140

hrmmm.

And you still haven't said what level of spells you were using. Please provide the proper information before expecting people to take up your cause.

[xenofur]

until i see any straight numbers i can't be sure that you tried to stun a raging ocyx with a lvl 1 stun spell and you're doing an admirable job of dodging the topic

[jjm152]

you said the group was 80-100

and some cases 50-60 levels higher than the lowest level team...

Putting the mobs around lvl 130-140

hrmmm.

And you still haven't said what level of spells you were using. Please provide the proper information before expecting people to take up your cause.

If you read my original post, and I mean READ it, all the information is in there for you to infer the situtation. I am using the correct spells and fighting the correct monsters.

I don't have the time or the inclination to bother to argue with people who can't even bother to exercise their brain a little bit to parse a few sentances.

[farls]

I don't have the time or the inclination to bother to argue with people who can't even bother to exercise their brain a little bit to parse a few sentances.

I'm sorry. I didn't realize it was such a struggle for you to say "I'm level ** using level ** stun against a level ** mob."

[xenofur]

jjm152 how about you save your credibility and give us the numbers? seeing from your post in one of the other threads you canceled your account over this matter, and well, atm it looks like it was only the result of your own failures =)
so, care to prove me wrong?

[jjm152]

I'm sorry. I didn't realize it was such a struggle for you to say "I'm level ** using level ** stun against a level ** mob."

Jesus christ you people are so ignorant.

Do you understand what I'm saying??

I am in a team with people MY LEVEL or LOWER.

They are getting XP.

I am not.


I ask you this, if I cannot get XP in a team with people MY LEVEL OR LOWER...

Then how am I supposed to get XP?

Is this sinking in yet??

A person sitting in that team casting level 1 heal was getting MORE XP than I was (0 xp per kill!)

If you think of melee as nothing but a cheap spell, how come the melee characters who were lower level than me were able to hit the monster?


I am not an idiot, I am using the highest level afflictions I have available. The mob at most out levels me by 17 levels. The other members of the party it was outleveling by 20-60 levels. The lowest level melee in the ground (44) was getting XP every single battle. I was almost twice his level and getting none.

I now have two options for gaining any magic xp other then healing:

1) Solo monsters below my level.

2) Join a low level team and destroy their XP rate.

Anything that I can regularly affect with afflictions close to my level gives me a maximum of about 1000 xp. In a full team with lower level players that would be ~600 xp. (Yes the drop off is that bad now, try teaming a full group someday).

Frankly, if I wanted to continue playing the way the game is right now I just will have to either be a healer or give up magic all together. There is no way I can hang out with my guild anymore and contribute or advance my character.

You can come up with bizzare rationalizations for why this must be, but it doesn't change the fact that I cannot advance anymore in the game unless I solo or bottom feed on lower level groups.

[zzeii]

You are level 80 in offensive magic...

For the general basis, I'll assume you are level 80 offensive affliction because you didn't bother saying.

If you are using the highest possible affliction spells available to you, it states:

Magic power parameter stanze recommended for <insert magic spell here> of enemies whose average skill level does not exceed 80.

And you are killing things that are giving everyone in your team 1kxp, and your highest level is 100. At 133, killing a 2 star Marauding ragus who dropped q132 mats, I would get 959xp per kill. Now the more people you have in a party, the further the xp gets reduced. So in order to get 1kxp in a party with 'a bunch of people' you would need to fight things of a pretty significant level over your lvl 100 friend. And your skill is only 80 (still don't know if its elemental or offensive affliction).

I've seen lvl 50 melee fight people try and contribute with melee, miss the entire time, and get no xp.

No longer can you have a big disparity in levels (especially in any magic but healing) for a hunting party to get xp all the time.

[xenofur]

post no. 17 and still no clear numbers about the mob or you, don't think you can fool us with numbers about others

anyways: you only get exp for successful actions, i think you know that, and since you weren't able to do that you get nothing

also the reason why they are getting xp and you not is quite simple, your trying to dabble with the minds of mobs that outrank you was completely fruitless and useless to the group, while the healers did help(however small) and the melees did scratch it's skin(however weak)

Anything that I can regularly affect with afflictions close to my level gives me a maximum of about 1000 xp. In a full team with lower level players that would be ~600 xp. (Yes the drop off is that bad now, try teaming a full group someday).

ever had the thought that this is normal post patch 1? atm i am leveling melee solo and my exp rates range from 500-800, sometimes 1200 but after such a fight i'm usually almost dead

[jjm152]

post no. 17 and still no clear numbers about the mob or you, don't think you can fool us with numbers about others

anyways: you only get exp for successful actions, i think you know that, and since you weren't able to do that you get nothing

also the reason why they are getting xp and you not is quite simple, your trying to dabble with the minds of mobs that outrank you was completely fruitless and useless to the group, while the healers did help(however small) and the melees did scratch it's skin(however weak)

ever had the thought that this is normal post patch 1? atm i am leveling melee solo and my exp rates range from 500-800, sometimes 1200 but after such a fight i'm usually almost dead

500-800 xp solo seems about right after this patch. In a team however its not. You can get 1500 to 2000 in a team all the way up to atleast level 100 or so if you are relatively close together in levels.

However, I cannot do anything in such a team. And I don't consider hitting something for 414 pts of damage "scratching its skin". Thats how much damage a similar level melee fighter was doing to the mob that was resisting every single spell I cast.