Open The Test Server Please!

[eschiava]

I believe that recent events should be more than enough to convince the good people at Nevrax, a more well rounded group of people on ATS is needed to test future changes.

And to address one problem that was raised, that if the test server was open to all, then too many would play on it. I disagree. When I first started to play EQ I was able to play on the test server, right from the start. Please note that even though EQ had a membership of about 250,000 at some point the test server was NEVER a crowded server, in fact, it was quiet for the most part.

So, please, I ask Nevrax to open the test server, if not to all players, then hold a lottery or something to get more players on. But more players, and a broader selection of players, would definitely be a good thing for us all.

Miy's Player

[loyats]

I believe that recent events should be more than enough to convince the good people at Nevrax, a more well rounded group of people on ATS is needed to test future changes.

And to address one problem that was raised, that if the test server was open to all, then too many would play on it. I disagree. When I first started to play EQ I was able to play on the test server, right from the start. Please note that even though EQ had a membership of about 250,000 at some point the test server was NEVER a crowded server, in fact, it was quiet for the most part.

So, please, I ask Nevrax to open the test server, if not to all players, then hold a lottery or something to get more players on. But more players, and a broader selection of players, would definitely be a good thing for us all.

Miy's Player

How about letting those of us who aren't going to use it but have access give up access to other's who do want access.

[gecker]

I sometimes wonder what the exact purpose of ATS is. I really think its just to give us pre-order people a sneak preview of things to come. There isn't any obvious place to give feedback to the devs about stuff on ATS. Also it seems like only the big changes, ie patch 1, are put on ATS. The small update 19 we had yesterday to re-balance some issues is not on ATS. That's been my experience so far.

[vguerin]

Obviously you guys are just trying to use their mistake as a way to get access to ATS.

The REASON that Patch 1 was a disaster and they are on their second hotfix to remedy is that those of us that did find all these problems were IGNORED BY NEVRAX. We reported here, we sent emails and we posted the information everywhere and it was ignored.

In light of this I will say now what I said to a member of our CSR I hold in high regard. I will not go back on ATS again, it is a farce and a waste of time to go there to try and prevent things like this and be ignored. I spent many hours on ATS pointing out what was working and what wasn't working...

http://ryzom.twazz.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=257 also posted in these forums.

Nevrax is playing catch up now ONLY because so many people have left already or I believe they'd continue to have ignored folks. This last week has really caused our CSR folks at Themis a lot of hassles because the mother company didn't respond until the bleeding was massive.

If they can transfer ATS access across accounts you are welcome to mine, I tried too hard to have this patch delayed until some things could be re-evaluated to no avail and prefer now to be obvlivious to upcoming storms.

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[svayvti]

There were at least half a dozen threads with data and details on the north american forums alone. Please do not say that the test server folks didn't give ample warning.

They gave plenty of warning. Enough warning for Nevrax to even have the patch to patch 1 up on test server the day they patched. But not enough for them to reconsider any of the patch.

The shame lies entirely on Nevrax. Unfortunately the loss of revenue (our CSRs and GMs will suffer for this) and a great game does not.

[kajisi]

I too feel that the ATS should be opened up to the general customers. We are all paying equally, and many of those that have decided to stay on despite the problems are those that came to the game after the inital betas.

These folk (admittedly...myself included) should not be discarded from the preview/testing opportunities simply because of our arrival time during the pre-stages. Our opinons do matter on the accounts recievable line, and our contributions on the test environment could help to prevent player-loss.

Re's, Aexis

[jdiegel]

You know, I did see half a dozen threads on ATS patch 1 issues...all regarding harvesting. I knew mobs were supposed to be more difficult, but I didn't see any threads like the ones post patch talking about just how difficult they were to become. So, in retrospect, it would see to me that the current ATS crowd is a bit too Harv/craft heavy and could use a few more fighters.

Side note: No, I don't want on ATS.

[zukor]

You know, I did see half a dozen threads on ATS patch 1 issues...all regarding harvesting. I knew mobs were supposed to be more difficult, but I didn't see any threads like the ones post patch talking about just how difficult they were to become. So, in retrospect, it would see to me that the current ATS crowd is a bit too Harv/craft heavy and could use a few more fighters.

Side note: No, I don't want on ATS.

I agree with all of that. The harvesting fix was ready right away after the patch was released, so Nevrax must have paid attention to some extent to the ATS people. Why they chose to release a patch that had major issues, get loads of people upset, and then "patch the patch" right away is something I can't figure out.

On the other hand, I also agree that there wasn't much discussion of combat changes before the patch went live. Hopefully Nevrax has learned from this. Future changes should be adequately tested by a larger variety of players, including different types and diverse levels, and fixed prior to implementation. Whether this involves opening up the ATS to everyone or not, I'm not sure, but some changes are needed.

Doctor Z.

[gecker]

Well since Harvest is my main skill, my melee fighting is only around lvl 40. At that level with patch 1 on ATS, I didn't see much difference with the mobs so I didn't comment on it.

So I would have to agree with DoubleTap, it just isn't worth the time to do anything with ATS.