Stop complaining....

[mookse]

The only conclusion I can reach is that the devs are masochistic and really enjoy being insulted, abused and eviscerated. So I'm happy to do my part to give them their jollies.

They have, in point of fact, decimated the playability of the game.

First off - A level 137 fighter cannot walk through the lowest level of the game without being assaulted by ragus aggro that now starts at... 150 meters?! If I do not have all of my specialties up, I *WILL* die. And I did - and that DP is now unrecoupable as far as I can detect, as I tried to *lol* harvest it off.

I can't even begin to describe how asinine and absurd this is. It is cruel. Not all of us are as masochistic as the developers are. And this game is now garbage. I was really hoping it would succeed, and I know that the French hate everyone (including themselves, so it's fair) but I will NOT pay to get my face spit in at every turn. Have some freaking mercy on us Americans, we are already committed to suffering 4 more years irl.

Love,

Mookse

[digichik]

I won't stop complaining until they fix the game so I can play it again. I pay for this game and with this patch all I do is die to things I could solo before. I can't even leave Yrkanis without getting killed. I am post lvl 50.

This patch is rediculous. Nevrax was told by the people on the ATS that the changes would not work well or at all. They still patched it and made us suffer with it anyway. Every single change they make to the game now is of crucial importance. This is not beta to try out new balancing acts. The game was balanced and rebalanced during beta...over and over.

This patch was not thought thru. No dev could possibly have played the game with the patch in place. If they would have played the game, or listened to those on the ATS, they wouldn't have lost so many players. Now, patches are business decisions...its not beta anymore. This business decision was a poor one.

If there was no legitimate reason to complain (like if it was still beta or the game was free) then I can understand someone saying stop complaining. However, complaints about this patch are legitimate and it is losing nevrax's customer base with it.

Get on Ryzom and play...how will you fix your death penalty?
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[tleilaxu]

I haven't been in game since Sunday, but am currently downloading the big, scary patch, and looking forward to seeing what all the controversy is about.

Those of you who have been bleating about how the patch is good and all, I'd like you to actually go in and play the damned thing.

[lootking]

Those of you who have been bleating about how the patch is good and all, I'd like you to actually go in and play the damned thing.

im playing....


used to pull 3 q90-100 mats per dig, with no risk whatsoever, now i pull 1-2 mats of 70-100 with alot of risks. seems much more realistic that it be dangerous, not simple to pull things from a living ground that does not like being disturbed. seems inline with the story

used to be able to kill beast 'x' easily. this is the same beast 'x' that is partly responsible for the decimation of 4 societies of homins 3 generations ago. and yet, i could kill it alone, with ease. now, it slaughters me alone, hmm, that seems more inline with the storyline too

used to have to sit and refill sap too much, personlly i though the magic end was a bit weak. well, theyve revamped it completely, things are cheaper, sap goes further, regens are bigger, etc etc etc. magic works pretty well now, relative to melee. not too shabbadoo methinks

is it a perfect patch? no.
is there such a thing ? no
will the game forever be etched in stone now , not ever changing from this point on? um, no

so, like the title of the thread says , stop complaining and get on with it

[aylwyne]

I used to work in a technical support group and one of the things that they usually teach anyone in a support role is that "complaints are good".

The biggest complainer is usually the biggest supporter. They complain because they are comitted and want to see things improve. Don't look at these complaints as a bad thing. Look at them as a sign of how passionate these people are about this game.

The complainers aren't the ones to worry about. Be more worried about the people that try the game out, decide the changes make the game unenjoyable for them, and quietly cancel their account and go away.

[maborosh]

so, like the title of the thread says , stop complaining and get on with it

"'...get on with it?"

This is not a job , nor, as one person laughably compared it to, a marriage (oy...) it's a *game*. If I'm playing, say, basketball, and after I've started they change the rules to allow tackling, and my baskets only count 3 times out of 10, and there's a good chance the basket will fall down and bonk me on the head... I'm not 'getting on with it' without complaints, I'm walking out of the game.

Actually, I think I'll go cancel now... this game simply isn't good enough to be worth the grief it's giving me.

[tetra]

im playing....
used to be able to kill beast 'x' easily. this is the same beast 'x' that is partly responsible for the decimation of 4 societies of homins 3 generations ago. and yet, i could kill it alone, with ease. now, it slaughters me alone, hmm, that seems more inline with the storyline too

if you consider "partly" to be similar to the way that a single atom is "partly" responsible for allowing me to sit in this chair, then sure
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[tleilaxu]

used to be able to kill beast 'x' easily. this is the same beast 'x' that is partly responsible for the decimation of 4 societies of homins 3 generations ago. and yet, i could kill it alone, with ease. now, it slaughters me alone, hmm, that seems more inline with the storyline too

Yes, for example a kipee is a member of the kitin type of monsters. BUT I DOUBT THE 4 SOCIETIES OF HOMINS were wiped out by little kipees. Maybe you should've ventured outside of MG to see Kirostas, Kinchers & Kipestas. Those mobs were perfectly capable of wiping out an entire party of high level characters, especially the Kirostas, and this is before the patch.

In comparison yes, a kipee is easy to kill, so is a yubo. Should the lowest level herbivores also mean instadeath now too?

These changes don't just affect high level players. They affect everyone, and for the worst.

[jharker]

i am sick of people complaining about the patch, for gods sakes give it time......grrr

Time is something I don't have. I'm at the end of my evaluation period, and I have to decide if I want to plunk down the cost of the game and subscription. Maybe this patch came at the worst time for me, but at this point and from where I stand (and yes, I have been playing post-patch), it looks like a beta product...and they're using the player base to test radical changes on.

Maybe you've already bought into the game, but keep in mind that many of us are evaluating it in this state and comparing it to WoW and EQ2.

[trosky]

What ever they do they will always be complaining... thats a sad fact.

But heres my opinion (i can hear the flaming coming) :

The game was really easy to lvl before... the game was supposed to last a lot longuer then how things were going... some harcore players made their way up to lvl 150 (and even higher) out of 250... in a month.

So they made the game a bit harder, to make the game last.

Now people are complaining because its alot harder (but totally do-able) to solo, and it was WAY to easy before.

Harvesting is the only things that is really bad in patch 1, and they will make another patch to fix harvesting. All the other skills work great, my char is actually stronger after patch 1.

Another thing that is anoying people is what they did to the mobs. They raised their damage and lowered their hp. I can now kill growling cloppers in 3 hit (nearly 2), before patch 1 it was taking around 10 hit, the clopper was hiting for 50-100 and is now hitting for 150-200. So you have to be more cautious but kills are faster and exp is nearly the same...

I soloed after patch 1, its definitly funner then before, hitting mobs without even looking at your screen is boring and a lot to easy.

I died more then before patch 1, whats so bad about dying, the exp penalty isnt hard to clear at all.

Anyway, im still able to solo.