How do we clear death penalty after patch 1?

[jjm152]

I'm curious about this actually...

I got a nice big fat death penalty trying to test out the monster changes today and now I can't seem to figure out how to get rid of it.

Basically, I can't harvest it away at all. I'm lucky just to get 1 complete mat in like 5 tries as it is. Also I can't fight it away either since the only things I can defeat reasonably give me like 100xp normal. It would take me like 5 hours at that rate to clear my death penalty.

What am I supposed to do here? Twiddle my thumbs and hope that the developers reverse some of these changes? I'd like to play tonight but frankly there isn't anything I can do.

later...

[drech]

I'm curious about this actually...

I got a nice big fat death penalty trying to test out the monster changes today and now I can't seem to figure out how to get rid of it.

Basically, I can't harvest it away at all. I'm lucky just to get 1 complete mat in like 5 tries as it is. Also I can't fight it away either since the only things I can defeat reasonably give me like 100xp normal. It would take me like 5 hours at that rate to clear my death penalty.

What am I supposed to do here? Twiddle my thumbs and hope that the developers reverse some of these changes? I'd like to play tonight but frankly there isn't anything I can do.

later...

You could try walking backwards but I have a sneaking suspicion it will be as effective as ATS bug reporting

[josephm]

I removed 150k DP harvesting 2-3 mats at a time. I had to balance sources of course, and do some ground stabs, resource presrvation, or just back off sometimes to conserve my focus.
I'm level 63 harvest and I have 50 gentle/harmful extraction.
45-600xp per pull = 4.5k avg dep removal, + a TON of mats.

Several of us were able to adjust to the system. I think it worked quite well. However, one person in our clan. Overrun I think it is, has the same problem. NOTHING he kills can give hiim xp, and everything else is what set him at max dp If you figure it out let him know, or ask him in case he found out in the past few hours.

I rented Gladius some time ago. Really liked it and got it for 30 bucks at best buy. My roomate got a PS2 and was playing it on my big tv so I set his next to the computer so I could harvest/work off DP. I never died, and I hardly had to pay any attention to the game while I did this. Granted I did look at least every minute or two during an extraction, but that was about it.

[spaero]

2 of us around level 100 cannot take a Nettled Kipee, MT with 1900 HP and heavy armor and a healer/nuker lev 92. Gave up at 282k DP.. any suggestions?

[jjm152]

2 of us around level 100 cannot take a Nettled Kipee, MT with 1900 HP and heavy armor and a healer/nuker lev 92. Gave up at 282k DP.. any suggestions?

I am having the same problem. I have QL100 choice armor (i made it myself, it rocks) and over 1800 hp's with all my gear on. I cannot really defeat anything that will give me even a modest amount of experience.

It really makes me kind of upset. o.o

[josephm]

Aren't nettled like 130ish? That's a pretty big gap. Don't look at it percentagewise.
Look at it like, level 20-50 has a big gap in mob difficulty. Leel 100-130 should have the same gap. Otherwise we'd be leveling faster unless they just raised the xp up...I'm thinking, with the lowered xp gains, once you start hitting mobs your level you'll find that the xp to level (not the cap) has been lowered significantly. But this is a hunch based off what I saw at my 67 crafting...I was playing Gladius though and not counting my harvests.

[jjm152]

I am having the same problem. I have QL100 choice armor (i made it myself, it rocks) and over 1800 hp's with all my gear on. I cannot really defeat anything that will give me even a modest amount of experience.

It really makes me kind of upset. o.o

I tried to kill a Scary Clopper today in Winds of Muse, btw the clopper had its level raised, its now level 77 instead of 68... Anyway. I defeated it, but it almost ripped my arse apart. I have two melee skills in the level 73ish range, and the absolute best gear I can use. There is no way I am going to be able to remove death penalty fighting these guys... they just hit too damn hard and fast, sooner or later one is going to punch my ticket and then I'll just have >more< death penalty.

I tried to drop down to mobs a little bit lower than that, but alas, they ripped me apart as well and for minimal (100-200xp).

[svayvti]

Tried teaming as a mage, but it was just a massacre. Amusing thing is I can solo effectively with high damage spells.

Anyways foraging was taking FOREVER to get rid of DP. Used to be gone in 2 pulls, now after a dozen good pulls (which isn't so easy) I was still only less than 1/3 of the way.

Got in a foraging team with a guildmate. Was the ONLY way I saw to reasonably get rid of DP. Time to start making foraging teams to erase DP.

[jjm152]

Tried teaming as a mage, but it was just a massacre. Amusing thing is I can solo effectively with high damage spells.

Anyways foraging was taking FOREVER to get rid of DP. Used to be gone in 2 pulls, now after a dozen good pulls (which isn't so easy) I was still only less than 1/3 of the way.

Got in a foraging team with a guildmate. Was the ONLY way I saw to reasonably get rid of DP. Time to start making foraging teams to erase DP.

I managed to clear it by harvesting, here is how I did it:

1) Went to Winds of Muse and found a big QL100 field of resources.
2) Used wide angle 40m 5 resource prospection to uncover nodes.
3) Harvest until depleted every node in sight.

Generally I would get 1 unit of >some< quality. Usually around 79 to 97. Sometimes I would get lucky and get 2 of QL100. One time I even got 3.

I was using:

Gentle Speed 1
Gentle Rate 1
Agressive Quality 4
Terrain Specialization: Lake
Material Specilization: Sap (mostly sap in that area).

I was using Gentle Quality at first, and higher gentle rates with the 84 pt credit, but it didn't make any difference at all in regards to how well I was able to extract materials, so I just gave up on it.

It was by far easier to just strip mine the entire damn place and work off my DP that way. Only took like 10 minutes.

[swayzo]

You guys are missing the big picture they don't want you taking down big mobs anymore so stop. For one your armor is going to degrade fast.

Start challenging mobs 10-15 lvl under your lvl solo time buddys or bring a healer. Then challenge mob of equal level.

Like me I am lvl 60 Offensive Mage I can't take a lvl 60 mob.

But I can kill a lvl 51 mob for 2300 xp with a little trouble but not to bad. Have to pick the right mobs too. Just can't say ooh that lvl 51 mob is same as this lvl 51 mob nope there not.

Time to play smart not dumb. Keep your wits about you.

Foraging just sucks so nothing we can do about that.