Warning : Launch of a Major Event Play Role in Ryzom !

[gcaldani]

Hehe.. Gil, perhaps you misunderstood my post or perhaps my intention is not as transparent as I wish it to be.

*hugs*
Inifuss

Well, i reread your post and possibly i was superficial. I only emphasized your sentence: "However, the kitin threat is an integral part of the lore, we are all very well aware of the threat and why it is important that we work together to try to reduce that threat."

but, i admit, losing the entire context.

[scarazi]

What annoys me the most is, the posts that state "this is bad"/"im out" without giving reasons why, and recommendations on how to improve future events. After all this is a new company launching their first major event, it isnt going to be flawless.

I havnt seen any of this event, but echos of previous events have popped up in this thread, so based on prvious experience; It seems you had two options, take part or not login for a few weeks. The halloween evert was the same, the was no safehaven for people who didnt feel like participating.

The event is too long, 10 days is long enough I feel, with the build up at the start of the first weekend, and the conclusion at the end of the second.

More info throughtout, and side stories/events that keeps the people who put in the hours entertained.

Greater build up stories, why are we building this? what excatly are we building, what promted the governments to order this work? The info is probably there somewhere if I search hard enough, but it should be top news, or a newsflash/ticker "KITIN HAS TAKEN OVER MAJESTIC GARDEN". Watching this event progress via the APIs hasnt done it justice, there hasnt been the buzz

I mentioned it in the marketing section, make promo videos for major events for the dozens of mmo fansites and portals to embed in their stories also, a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth a million.

Small negatives above. Like I said I cannot comment on the current event, just what I have experienced from previous events. Change is great though, events are great, and please ignore those that want the threats of Atys nerfed to make them easier so that it doesnt affect their walk in the park playstyle

[tomaas]

What annoys me the most is, the posts that state "this is bad"/"im out" without giving reasons why, and recommendations on how to improve future events. After all this is a new company launching their first major event, it isnt going to be flawless.

I havnt seen any of this event, but echos of previous events have popped up in this thread, so based on prvious experience; It seems you had two options, take part or not login for a few weeks. The halloween evert was the same, the was no safehaven for people who didnt feel like participating.

The event is too long, 10 days is long enough I feel, with the build up at the start of the first weekend, and the conclusion at the end of the second.

More info throughtout, and side stories/events that keeps the people who put in the hours entertained.

Greater build up stories, why are we building this? what excatly are we building, what promted the governments to order this work? The info is probably there somewhere if I search hard enough, but it should be top news, or a newsflash/ticker "KITIN HAS TAKEN OVER MAJESTIC GARDEN". Watching this event progress via the APIs hasnt done it justice, there hasnt been the buzz

I mentioned it in the marketing section, make promo videos for major events for the dozens of mmo fansites and portals to embed in their stories also, a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth a million.

Small negatives above. Like I said I cannot comment on the current event, just what I have experienced from previous events. Change is great though, events are great, and please ignore those that want the threats of Atys nerfed to make them easier so that it doesnt affect their walk in the park playstyle

Walk in the park. That's NOT what I asked for.

Here's what you can do to see my point, since you are so ignorant. Delete your Endgame t00n. Start all over again. Then, get a team of whatever lvl 100's you can find and go to Towerbridge with your CHOICE gear.... not supreme, not made by guildmates.... go as a newb.

THEN in a team of whoever you can find at your level, face 18+ level 100 Kitin that hit like 200's and come in three's.

I didn't ask for a walk in the park. I asked to be able to DO SOMETHING instead of sit there getting slaughtered because the few people in the forest that ARE my level cannot fight the event mobs, even in a team... cannot harvest because they are over the nodes we need, and cannot do anything other than sit in Yrkanis digging at the stables.

Your elitist attitude does well to help the game. It helped it before, when it closed two times, and it will help it to die again.... possibly for the last time.

I went through four back and forths with the development team in private E-Mails telling them the problems before I said screw it and got more public with it.

I shouted it to the hills in chat on Arispotle, and got the same response you're giving me: "stfu n00b".

I'm done. We've subscribed to Anarchy Online and we MAY be back in a year... we may not be back. But the point is, I didn't ask to nerf any of your "precious fun". I asked to be able to do SOMETHING besides sitting in town, or dying when I got the FEW people my level together to hunt or forge in areas with MY LEVEL DESIGNATION that are overrun by too many mobs that are even singly almost too much for my teams to deal with. I aked to have some fun of my own... since THAT is what I was PAYING FOR!!!!

Of course, you're too busy waving your E-Peen to really hear what I'm telling. You want to put words in my mouth and place the blame for not being able to do anything on me, instead of 18+ kitins at every spot I go to at my level, and all of the high level people off doing their own thing, because they can't hold our hands 24/7... and WE can't do anything if they don't.

[suib0m]

I'm not going to try and change your position, Tomaas. I do feel for you.

However, so that other folks do not make the same mistake, lvl 100 KotD are in Fleeting Garden. You will face lvl 150 KotD at Towerbridge. I can understand your difficulty now. Towerbridge is *not* the place for sub 150's to go. If you can taunt far enough to not drag the triple, then you should be able to solo in Fleeting Garden at low 100's. If you have a decent healer and are decent with your strats (yes, takes some know how) then you can pull the full triple and take them on without too much issue.

Anyway, just wanted to make that clear to folks. If any new folks are having issues with this event. Please ask for help in Uni. Sometimes you will not have luck as population has been up and down of late. But other times you will find help. If I am around, I can help in fleeting garden, but my time is sparse over the next few weeks.

Peace all,
- Sui

[pre156kt]

While I love this event from my position of somewhat vet, I see how messed up it is for new players. During halloween invasion, it was the same thing, new people did speak out about how this hurts them, so how can devs do it again in the same way and possibly much longer this time around? Thats incredibly ignorant.

If you make an invasion event, it should not be in a way that forbids people from doing anything else for 2+ weeks. The invasion hordes could have been spawned just in regions with incomplete towers, or they could be moving from region to region, or they could be spawned in more limited area in every region. Or maybe their respawn could have been set on something like two days, so when people finally clear out a bit of the invasion armada, the area stays clear long enough for other folks to use it. But having the hordes that respawn fast as rabbits absolutely everywhere but q50 areas is a silly move and a brilliant way to lose new subs.

I just pray this event phase wont take as long as the progress counters on RP page hint it will.



By the way, I agree with things said about communication. Since this is supposed to be major event, I would expect it to be followed by more mini-happenings, RP speeches and such.

[elleree]

Here's what you can do to see my point, since you are so ignorant. Delete your Endgame t00n. Start all over again. Then, get a team of whatever lvl 100's you can find and go to Towerbridge with your CHOICE gear.... not supreme, not made by guildmates.... go as a newb.

This right here is the problem and not how I see Ryzom being played. It's never been about new players taking on more than they can chew. It's always been about veteran players helping the new players.

We've all been new players, we've all been trekked across Atys, through Prime Roots, facing mobs much higher than us. We've all died over and over again. But we've always banded together, new and veteran players to help each other. It's never been about "get a group of players your own level." That's not Ryzom.

This community has always been more than generous in gearing lower level players, assisting in treks, giving away cats, banding together. Guilds pride themselves on taking care of their new members and guiding them and teaching them. I've never found this in any other community.

Yes, the Kitin have disrupted our daily grind/dig. I can't defend myself alone so I've had to make major adjustments in my game play. I run around with a huge death penalty most times from taking on more than I can chew. We've all had to find new places to dig and new places to work on our skills. But we band together with our guild mates and with others to take on the Kitin threat, doing the best we can.

Has the event gone too far? *shrug* All I know is it's made me appreciate my guild mates and the community a lot more and Atys is going to feel very strange when the KoTD are gone. I'll be looking forward to what is next.

[acridiel]

One thing that just came to my mind, thinking about this discussion, is this.
It´s only a theory, so please bear with me and don´t react as if I somehow said "you personally" were "a bad person" or something like that, ok?

I think it all comes down to most other games having established the feeling of being able to master everything on ones own,
or at least with a small group of friends in a pre-established environment, that is 100% predictable and follows a certain prepared path.

Now if something unpredictable, unexpected and out of the ordinary happens to those who are used to following a pre-established route,
that millions of players before them did already travel successfully, they´re naturally going to react with intense frustration.
Just think of what would happen in WoW, if the Silithides were to suddenly overrun Orgrimar and Stromwind?

It would be a never before heard of outcry of rage!

But! And here´s the point:

Ryzom IS exactly about such unexpected things happening.
It is NOT about following a beaten path and just going from level to level to max. in a few weeks.
It´s about survival of Hominkind. It´s about how people like the Homins deal with out of the ordinary Events.
Not them living their regular lives and getting just on with the regular routine.
We have that for most of the time, of course.

But ever so often something happens to break that routine.
And players have to band together, be they established Veterans, or Newbes, to best these circumstances.

All I can do is invite those who feel like they´re not up to the challenge alone, to get together with other players, preferably higher ones and
beat the living **** out of these Bugs!

So, are you ready for a challenge that is playing Ryzom?
I truly hope so!

CU
Acridiel

P.S.: And this is the exact reason why I´m a fanboy of this game

[jezabel]

Ryzom is like the movie "Starship Troopers".
You have, time to time, to fight to save your life instead of gaining levels...

It's one of the feature of Ryzom that makes the game and it's community appart in the MMO genre...

Edit : correcting movie's title

[acridiel]

Pssssst... its "Starship Troopers"

[chibiarc]

Delete your Endgame t00n. Start all over again. Then, get a team of whatever lvl 100's you can find and go to Towerbridge with your CHOICE gear.... not supreme, not made by guildmates.... go as a newb.

Been there, done that. The greatest fun I had in my life! I think the problem is not the gear nor levels, the problem and the main thing one has to learn on Atys is still knowledge. How can I survive? How can aggro be avoided? With the event not much has changed, even a so called endgame character will be spanked by 250 kinreys.

I'm playing new toons regulary, without any important gear upgrades, but I know my stuff and this is the huge difference I'd say. You have to learn how to survive in this world, what to avoid, what to seek out. I had no problems leveling so far, event kitins can be avoided just like regular kitins, if you decide to take on the event - you are better off with a guild to back you up as new player.

Ryzom is about the amazing help of the community, you don't have to solo and find out everything on your own. Of course you are free to, but don't complain if you do. And about the ultra hard mobs - kitins aren't easy mobs to get some levels, the kitins are the main threat on atys. You as homin should run for your life or gather and fight for your life! Kitins have overrun towns in the past, hundreds of them.

This is Atys and it has been this way since the first day.

arc