The Guild Registry of Outposts: Who, Where and What

[arfindel]

MJ:
AA got their OP from Nexus, does that make them Kami?
TS has defended kara Nexus against Soul, does that make us kara?
TPM fought along with KA against several kami guilds, did we ever asked RIv to colour them kara?


"Sides" are subject to perception.
For Riv every single tryker guild except his own is kami. Is he wrong? He may be wrong for me and rigth for Pero, why muddle the forums with this discussion for nothing?

Riv's solution with no colours seems correct.

[iceaxe68]

Will everyone who
1) doesn't already know about the politics involved
and
2) gives a flip about the colors in the listing
please raise a hand?



EDIT: I favor removing the colors. Alliances shift too fast to maintain any color scheme people could agree on, and faction info is not terribly helpful.

[riveit]

For Riv every single tryker guild except his own is kami.

No Faa. Your statement is quite false. I consider Nexus and Team Spirit to be Kami Tryker guilds - I am unaware of any others. Atys Ghosts is declared Karavan but has acted functionally as a member of the Kami Alliance. Perhaps that will change with this fresh start and new distribution of outposts.



P.S. I haven't edited this listing since January and had lost the ability to edit. I was planning to change the coloring anyway but as Keiko said, I was 'out of it.'

[slippery]

Riv as far as i am concerned you can colour guilds in whatever way you want, as this thread has proved people will make up their own mind anyway.

If anyone is really that concerned i don't think anyone would object to you remaking the list with different colours?

[arfindel]

No Faa. Your statement is quite false. [...]

I'm working something else for 2 hours or more since I've written it and I keep regretting I didn't keep my mouth shut I could list here a whole history 2-3 years old and explain some behaviours, show that some people should stop treating others like second hand karas and they'd have only to win... but what for??? Reallly really not my business.

The game is up, as you very well point up, it's a fresh start. The number of OPs, even in your colouring, is not _that_ disbalanced as it used to be. Let's have fun. Drop the colours if you consider game mechanics factioning wrong and all will be happy.

If a newbie will want to know who's what OP, he will ask the person he trusts and who cares for him and will inherit therefore the master's opinions (which will be checked no doubt over the months to come), if an oldie wants to know, what a better way to visit Atys and see nice places.

[audrimas]

Making this list side based will be more informative. There are two big and well know alliances which fight each other. Whats so wrong to remake this list to represent current situation we have now?

Does it matter in this list what teleport guild using? No.
Does it matter in this list what side guild support in most OP battles? Yes.

Faa:
Changing AG to gold color wont make them member of Kami alliance and wont change their alignment. It will make this list less confusing. Adding an asterix next to guild name will show their alignment.

[arfindel]

It will provide instead a great instrument of propaganda as it already did.

[danolt]

Considering a new thread with a new list that does not have the colors was posted by Riv, four Faa posts ago, I wonder who is pushing the propaganda.

Just exactly what do you want him to do?

Pero

[arfindel]

Exactly what he himself proposed

[kalindra]

And which has been done already. Now who wants marshmelloes ? Argh, it's true, my guild's supply has been cut. *shrugs*