Why would I want to come back to Ryzom ?

[tigrus]

I see you have just started and yet still not finished puberty, I've purposely ignored your existance on these forums child I suggest you do the same to me.

Or ?

[arfindel]

So every single person is a light and miracle but SOE then Now who's being negative lol.

Well SOE did run Everquest 1 and planetside very very well when I played them and they had a bunch of other fun online games too.

I specified I am not talking from the above quoted position when it comes to normal discussion, I am simply assuming the Gauss bell for people true, be it their weight or their IQ or their good will

SOE is not a person, is a corporation. Dealt with it for too many years (both in the past and in the present) and I know its disfunctionalities. Ok I can admit EQ1 and planetside might have had some exceptional service quality, why not take your word for it? In SWG and VG both 5 years ago and nowadays I haven't seen such a quality, but I've seen a good quality in LotrO, and something more than good in Ryzom itself 2 years ago.

All my SWG friends were like drop jaw when it came to the speed a CSR answered a ticket, the server overall stability and the client performance.

[p4l4din]

I would like to make one point about your post john. you said you "put aside my personal views and wants" and give "whats objectively best in my opinion for the game." How can you give what best in your opinion and put aside your personal views? Also i would like to ask if you have ever started your own company? In my experience (which includes starting a business) you have to do what is best in your personal oppinion and "wait and see." You cant force people to come in and give you there money. I see that spiderweb is trying to give what is best in their oppinion to the players. If you have a problem getting into a game with people who have 3+ years of gameplay and lvls on you then good luck finding a game to play thats not still in dev stages. You want to know why you would want to come back. No one can answer that for you. New "content" is good for some and not for others. Judging by your post about what would be included in the upper roots I wander if you know what you would want in "new content." It sounds to me that you want a whole new game with the new smell and all. Well go to MMORPG and find one that is still in Dev stages so you will have a advantage on players that start 3+ years from now. I would come back to ryzom because in all the time I've played I've never gotten bored with the same old same old. As for player haveing master craft skilles they all were happy to give me anything I needed, and I was in turn more than happy to pass on the favor for all new players I met and craft and give them the best gear I could to help them out.

In short griping about needing more info is pointless and refusing to "wait and see" is equaly pointless. We have only two choices, 1 wait and see, 2 leave and go somewhere else.

No one, even spyderweb, can answer your question other than you.

If it is worth it to come back than come back, if not then dont.

I would love to see all old and new player come to love the game of ryzom as much as I do, but I understand that it can't be that way.


Deborah, Ballistic Mystix

[d29565]

I agree a lot with you Deborah.

The forum title is "why would I want to come back to ryzom?" That's not something we can answer for you. You say you've done it all and so on. Ryzom is never ending. You can't have done it all. Even if you had 250 in every tree branch, you wouldn't have done it all. Even if you knew every recipe for every craft tree you wouldnt have done it all. Even if you knew every location for every mat in Ryzom, you still wouldn't have done it all.

The thing about ryzom is that the community is ever changing the game. You say the OPs need reworking, and I'll agree to that. But their implemenation, created a catalyst for many things to come. Soon, people started working together in alliance to get outposts. Then, alliances started fighting against each other.

If you were even remotely involved in the "politics" of the alliances, you would know that there was much to be done. You were either fighting for equality, or fighting to take more outposts, or something. And right before the server end, another change came (if i've been told) with one alliance finally gaining ground on the other alliance.

You can't have done it all, because that stuff didn't happen in a quest. The players made that happen.

Oh, and it was really bugging me. You said that businesses aren't like card games. Yes and no. Businesses are very much like card games. I dont know much about bridge (dont even know what it is, tbh), but all card games are about statistics and probability. To run a business in the current economy is to rely heavily on stat/prob. But a business isn't a card specifically, and every once in a while something crazy like a stock market crash might come rolling in to wreck that stat/prob thing that was going on.

And, I'm glad to see the conversation about a server wipe starting to fall off. That discussion happened here.

If you think that new content is necessary for you to come back, your ideas can be added here.

If you still aren't satisfied, then maybe you should move on, as Deborah suggested. Find a game in the development stages that looks good to you. Grow with it. Trying to recreate Ryzom to be a fresh out of the box game, isn't gonna happen. Ryzom has a history. The players have a history, the developers have a history, the owners have a history. The people who have watched Ryzom from a distance know that there is history, and new players that stumble apon Ryzom will know that it has a history.

Remember, it's your decision to come back to Ryzom. It isn't for us to make up your mind, to convince you that you want to come back. I will say, though, that it is free at the moment to play. There is no legal binding contract for you to sign that says you have to stick with Ryzom forever if you become unsatisfied in any way.