Of course, persuasion, rhetorics and (especially) propaganda often are simply used to cover and hide "manipulation, greed, and worse greed for power".
I can live better with that on Atys than in real life, where you see exactly the same things in so-called politics. Weird about it is that they seem to be less clumsy and more subtle in game than RL.
In the game I make extensive use of rhetorics for either persuasion (well, I'm member of a religious Order, remember?) or for silver-tongued humiliation of brutes or hypocrites (I said elsewhere: I'm a healer, not a fighter, so this my only weapon). Propaganda really isn't my cup of tea, in none of the Worlds.
Among the great things is the convincing and challenging, you're absolutely right, Faa, I love it - and I love to be challenged in turn by someone who has the same, nearly the same or greater skills than me! Might bore listeners to death, but wow! it gives me a thrill!
