Question about standings and missions

[teylini]

I am more concerned with being able to do them rather than actually doing them. I'm not too keen on grinding.

It is like this: I like knowing that I can max out all of my skills, even though I probably never will. I just wanted to know if I could do all of the quests, or if doing some would lock me out of others.

Thank you for taking the time to explain them to me.

[raisrev1]

I am more concerned with being able to do them rather than actually doing them. I'm not too keen on grinding.

It is like this: I like knowing that I can max out all of my skills, even though I probably never will. I just wanted to know if I could do all of the quests, or if doing some would lock me out of others.

Thank you for taking the time to explain them to me.

It is possible to do all the quests/missions, Certain "quests" will lock out certain others because of your max fame with certain others will be too low to do them. BUt as stated before you can "re-declare" neutral and re-raise the fame for them to do the quests/missions for them if you so desire.

Neutrals have "access" to all the quests/missions.

[teylini]

Many of these "Rites" are sadly unfinished as of yet.
But we all hope to see them implemented someday...

So IF you realy want to do them ALL, be perpared for some extreme fame grind.
Remember you´ll have to have the required minimum Fame to do a specific Rite / Mission for a civilisation or Tribe or Faction. Even IF you are neutral.

It will be one HELL of a Famegrind if you are realy determined.
Usually its better to declare yourself either completely neutral, or aleged to one side of the Faction-War. By trying to realy do everything you´ll only subject yourself to endless hours of repeated fame missions to accomblish maybe one or two "special" rites that might grant you something nice, or not.

I won´t give you a link to the finished/unfinished missions, because I want you to first think about what you´re trying to do and what you are expecting to gain from it.

You might, and I´m far from realy knowing it, you might still be on the "WoW-Side" of Quests, so to say.
Expecting each and every Quest to have meaning and some cool reward that you may use and discard later as you see fit. And fame being just a way to get to some other "cool loot" like "Epic Mounts" or whatever.
That is not the case in Ryzom.
While this may be a Game-Breaker for some folks, many of us are actually gald it isn´t like this here. It negates the "need" to grind fame just to get "this cool thingy".
Your Charakter will be completely able to survive without ALL Missions done and without ALL Rite-revards (as few as there are atm). Your fellow palyers will NOT look down upon you for not having Item X or Spell Y.

Just relax, lean back and enjoy the world of Atys, not the false grind legacy of World of Warcraft.

CU
Acridiel

I actually come from the world of EVE. Sorry if it sounded like I wanted to grind through everything WoW style That is not what I want to do.

EVE can limit you once you choose sides by running missions. The only way to switch sides is to run missions for the other side. The problem with this is that if you are careless and let your standings drop too low, you can't run missions for the other side. There is no way to "declare neutral". So, it is possible to lock yourself out of parts of the universe.

I am glad that in Ryzom you can change your mind and work for the opposing faction if you want to. I will probably never attempt to do them all. I just want to have fun

[acridiel]

Thats great to hear
And I am sorry for missinterpreting your words.

Btw. you do not need to do any quests if you declare yourself neutral.
Our Missions do not give XP. They just give Fame.

So, if you want to stay neutral, just do wichever mission suits you
And get XP by "killing stuff"

CU
Acridiel

[teylini]

When one declares oneself neutral, does that actually reset all standings to zero? Or does it put them back to the initial levels for your race?

[raisrev1]

When one declares oneself neutral, does that actually reset all standings to zero? Or does it put them back to the initial levels for your race?

no, and no

It will reset the Maximum attainable fame to 50. Your physical Fame will remain unchanged unless a Race or Faction fame was above 50 then it will be reduced to 50. Thus any fame that was Negative or below 50 will remain as they are.

[teylini]

Does that mean that if your fame is low and you are KOS for a faction, you will stay that way, even if you declare yourself neutral? I thought that your fame would all sort of "move to the middle", even the negative fame.

Is there a way to recover from such a scenario?

[iwojimmy]

Declaring for a faction or neutral imposes maximums, it does nothing about the mininums you have already achieved. It will quite happily chop off the fame you have earned if its above the cap, but you get nothing back for it apart from new caps to work towards for groups friendly to whatever you declared for.

Doing a mission for one tribe will generally have a secondary effect on other tribes etc in that region.
So if you have very low fame with a particular group, you can work it upwards by doing stuff for their friends, it isnt fast, but it is possible.
There will usually be some mission giver who will offer missions to anyone, even if that person has severly negative fame with that group. Once your fame is positive, you can then get missions from more mission agents and speed the process more.
The 'tolerant' mission giver might be the tribe welcomer, which can be a problem if the guards are attack on sight due to your low fame.. killing them will just push your fame lower.
Civilisations are less trigger happy than tribes.
I think every mission you do, for anyone at all, will have some effect on your Kami/Karavan fame, so you can engineer that without dealing with the actual faction members themselves