Windows Vista Ultimate: Game crashes/causes Memory dump

[final60]

I have recently installed Vista Ultimate and have been having problems with Ryzom crashing, and causing a memory dump after around 5 mins of playing.

intel p4 cpu 3.00GHz 2.99GHz
Mobo: abit IC7-MAX3
Memory: 2047 MB
Windows Vista Ultimate 32 bit
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS - Driver version: 7.14.10.9686

The solution I've found was to locate the "client_ryzom_rd.exe" right click > Properties > Compatibility Tab > Check "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" Select "Windows XP (Service Pack 2)" from the drop down menu > Check "Run this program as an administrator".
The game hasn't crashed or caused a memory dump since.

edit: It has crashed again. Updating gfx driver..
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS - Driver version: 7.15.11.6222

Is anyone experiencing the same problem. I've tried to cover everything, but it still doesn't seem to like Vista!

[vguerin]

Is anyone experiencing the same problem. I've tried to cover everything, but it still doesn't seem to like Vista!

I don't run it in compaibility mode, but no Vista related problems here. Have you checked for heat and the usual suspects ?

[daestny]

Try going into the configuration program and setting the graphics to Direct3D. If you have the setting at Auto it will cause ryzom to run in OpenGL mode by default.

[final60]

My system is farely high performance, and the air flow is adequate. The gfx card I have has a massive heatsink and fan and is powered by two seperate power points.

The graphics are set to Direct3d.

I'm right in thinking that it's comon knowledge that 90% of existing games don't run particularly well in vista?
I might just create a small partition with just WinXP installed on it to play games.

[vguerin]

If your system came with Vista, your particular problem may not be fixed making it dual boot. Bad drivers is not a Vista problem, it's the hardware vendor. Every game I played is better under this system than it was under my XP system, Ryzom and others are greatly improved.

I would check/try a lot of things before I would dual-boot... you haven't found the problem yet.

[shiny1]

Hm, I'll have to disagree with DT here -- I play on vista business on my notebook and performance compared with how it used to run on XP is pretty bad. (But then, this is mostly just ATI and their crummy drivers right now). Meanwhile, overall game performance is a little bit nerfed, but one thing that definitely helps is switching windows to 'vista basic' mode while playing. Aero runs from a little thing named 'dwm.exe' (desktop window manager) and when it is doing pretty graphics it eats up anywhere up to 100mb of RAM!! That's not the mean amount it takes up, but still useful to turn it off for a bit...

As for the memory dumps and other nastiness...despite suffering slowdown, for me, game only crashes when it quits (the process will remain running, despite not actually appearing to be on the screen -- this results it in hogging like 300mb of RAM when it should have died gracefully). That problem is something I've noticed on XP as well -- whoever wrote the 'exit()' function needs a good slappin

~Tal

p.s. OGL mode doesn't even work on ATI cards under vista

[wakatack69]

Hello,

I have Vista 64-bit Ultimate
AMD FX-62 3.0 Ghz Dual Core
4GB DDR 900 Mhz
2x GeForce 8800 GTX Sli
2x SATA2 320 GB 16MB

Only ever played Ryzom on this (4 months now) and had the same crashes Final did for days in the begining (other games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Oblivion, etc all ran great).

The problem is very very simple....
You need to turn off the User Security (the thing that always asks if you want to approve something or run it in Administrator mode).

Sure you can launch the initial file in Administrator mode, but any other executeables called will not be running with the same rights.

I do appoligise I dont know the correct name (at work on XP booo)

But you will find it in Control Panel around User & Security based settings.


Best of luck Final!!

Vista Ultimate rocks!

[kaetemi]

Try going into the configuration program and setting the graphics to Direct3D. If you have the setting at Auto it will cause ryzom to run in OpenGL mode by default.

Ryzom works better in OpenGL in Vista on my PC.

[vguerin]

The problem is very very simple....
You need to turn off the User Security (the thing that always asks if you want to approve something or run it in Administrator mode).

Sure you can launch the initial file in Administrator mode, but any other executeables called will not be running with the same rights.

I do appoligise I dont know the correct name (at work on XP booo)

But you will find it in Control Panel around User & Security based settings.

UAC = User Account Control, depending on your flavor of displaying the Control Panel it's typically listed under "Security Center". This could very well be the issue...

[kaetemi]

The problem is very very simple....
You need to turn off the User Security (the thing that always asks if you want to approve something or run it in Administrator mode).

Sure you can launch the initial file in Administrator mode, but any other executeables called will not be running with the same rights.

Uh, no. Turning off those security features is really not needed. You don't even need to run Ryzom as Administrator to keep it running. Ryzom just needs to have Read/Write permissions for the folder it's installed in, so you simply need to give whatever user that runs Ryzom permission to Write directly to the Ryzom folder, so that it doesn't use the Program Files Virtualization feature.