OP Mechanics suggestion

[mrshad]

When all ya regular dig buddies (both kara and kami) haven't been on for weeks, except for OP battles) something is happening.

If they are around for the OP battles, the the fights are what keeps 'em comming back, right?

Players get bored, they move on...unless you had a game constatly adding PvE content; ain't nothing gunna change that. Since adding PvE content is hard, and take money and thought, we probably won't be seeing much of it.

If you want to argue a PoV and use analogies like the NBA, you just can't dismiss them after they don't work for you anymore.

I didn't use the NBA analogy, you did. I said if I were playing against a pro player, I would stand no chance...and it wasn't supposed to be an anology for OPs...it was ment to show that, at a very basic level, life is unfair.

A player who "says" he enjoys it for "the challenge" has three options if the game gets to a point where one side is significantly more in control:

Ask someone who is in it for "the challenge". I am in it to hang with my friends.

... and anything that makes it less so is good for the game.

No...not anything. Some of the ideas suggested would make the outcome less predictable, but would be bad for the game. Anything that significantly limits player choice would be bad for the game.

I am not saying there isn't a problem. I am saying some of the proposed solutions make it worse.

(It doesn't matter anyway, since nothing will be done to change it. It is just a fun argument to have)

[wardone]

*) please dont give me the usual tongue-in-cheek stuff about "You dont want PvP don't own an OP" or "bah youre just not organized". Most if not all Kara guild leaders and their followers don't have the slightest idea about the effort many brave Kamis like Genia, Faa, Harvey, and the others have to put in to keep themselves motivated to fight a battle that cant be won, to keep their guildies motivated, to keep dragging them to battles. I deny any KA guild officer the right to deride their efforts in region chat or in the forums, it is not roleplay, it is bullying in the worst sense and it makes me have second thoughts about the often-sung community in the game.

My personal consequences are that i will no longer attend any OP battles. If Kara Alliance want to have all the OPs, they are welcome to it for all i care.

Aggree with u there Gloife,
its my belief that if they want to KA could take each of the last outposts with a full scale attack like they managed for Whirling. A attack on that scale we really have no answer for yes there are many kami in game but also many that are so sick and tired of endless (And not fun btw) op battles, these people like Gloife and myself are faced with the choice of leaving the game completley or quit attending battles and just to retain our sanity and love for ryzom.
A case in point was Ryz leaving the game not long ago for exactly that reason and he is not the only paying customer to do so.

For myself i am mostlikely the most stubborn and bloodyminded person u will ever meet so i expect i will get dragged along soon to the next pointless outpost conflict.

And to spriteh expect some serious camping once i finish autolauncher i suggest u get a nice hat

[haennah]

And to spriteh expect some serious camping once i finish autolauncher i suggest u get a nice hat

I could knit one.....oh wait..nvm

[wardone]

lol u knit?

make it one with the floppy ear covers

[sprite]

And to spriteh expect some serious camping once i finish autolauncher i suggest u get a nice hat

Oh don't worry, if its anything like what you threw at me at Saishun I'll just stand there and watch my sys info fill up with "You have dodged Theharvester's attack"

Anything you guys are sending my way means less stuff heading towards people who make a difference in these things

[dakhound]

yes there are many kami in game but also many that are so sick and tired of endless (And not fun btw) op battles

stop your alliance declaring 5-6 a week for no good reason then.

*I dont charge for advise for first 5 posts, any thereafter is charged at the standard rate of 1 yubo skin per session

[martl]

stop your alliance declaring 5-6 a week for no good reason then.

That coming from you is funny.

[final60]

*I dont charge for advise for first 5 posts, any thereafter is charged at the standard rate of 1 yubo skin per session

This doesnt sound like the Jackoba I remember. Do you have to become obnoxious when you turn Kara?

Besides I question your true allegiance deep down!

[dakhound]

That coming from you is funny.

why?

have the KA declared 5-6 times a week?

oh right when I was in KoO?

like I declared 3 battles all on the same day, was a bit out of character for me but I got really annoyed and drunk that night even KoO said wth you doing jack. I also declared on malmont once (when I got the time wrong) otherwise most attacks were work of others which I assented to as we believed it a valid tactic at the time (we were wrong btw as we won nothing). Now I didnt say I was sick of battles anyways, harv did so its pretty irrelevant, bring them on annoy the remaining KA that have some sympathy left with the kami.


final - no mate you dont, sometimes I just post in a manner that is because people sometimes write things I really disagree with.

[wardone]

stop your alliance declaring 5-6 a week for no good reason then.

my alliance?

lol thats good one
its a alliance there are many people in it and each has a voice and also freedom to declare battles.

ps: spriteh yeah only lvl 197 atm give me a while will be much more effective once mastered