New PvP rank suggestions thread.

[tigrus]

Ive been thinking alot, and ive found a suggestion that i think MIGHT help encourage pvp in this game.

PvP ranks: Nothing more then mere titles, therefor not forcing anyone to pvp, but making it a cool reward for those that do.

make it so that all players have a certain "value", the value increase with more kills, and sinks if you GET killed.
The higher value the person you kill have, the more value you receive.
Meaning, if a person, say. Yaffle has a ranking of (random high number) and Xeraphim has a ranking of (random lower number) I will receive MORE value for killing Yaffle then Xeraphim. And i will LOOSE more value if killed by Xeraphim then yaffle.

When you get certain stages of value, you get new titles, but you gotta KEEP fighting to KEEP the titles.
My suggestion is 10 different ranks.
I have yet to make ALL of them. So i wanna see if we TOGETHER can find a suggestion that the GMs will put into the game.
I also suggest that this "VALUE" might be named: Kami Soldier Fame/Karavan Soldier Fame. (since the factions and kami and karavan and they have FAME today).

So here goes:
Rank 1: Private.
Rank 2: -
Rank 3: Support Fighter
Rank 4: (faction) Fighter
Rank 5: (Faction) Monk/Avenger
Rank 6: (faction) Destroyer
Rank 7: (Faction) Commander
Rank 8: (faction) General
Rank 9: Dealer of Death
Rank 10: (A top rank of some kind)

Example: (faction) Commander= kami Commander.

Lets discuss this: Bad things, Good things, and what the ranks should be.

These are just a suggestion for some basic ranks/titles.
All of them are just ideas so please keep it civil.
Tiger

[mugendo]

Ive been thinking alot, and ive found a suggestion that i think MIGHT help encourage pvp in this game.

PvP ranks: Nothing more then mere titles, therefor not forcing anyone to pvp, but making it a cool reward for those that do.

make it so that all players have a certain "value", the value increase with more kills, and sinks if you GET killed.
The higher value the person you kill have, the more value you receive.
Meaning, if a person, say. Yaffle has a ranking of (random high number) and Xeraphim has a ranking of (random lower number) I will receive MORE value for killing Yaffle then Xeraphim. And i will LOOSE more value if killed by Xeraphim then yaffle.

When you get certain stages of value, you get new titles, but you gotta KEEP fighting to KEEP the titles.
My suggestion is 10 different ranks.
I have yet to make ALL of them. So i wanna see if we TOGETHER can find a suggestion that the GMs will put into the game.
I also suggest that this "VALUE" might be named: Kami Soldier Fame/Karavan Soldier Fame. (since the factions and kami and karavan and they have FAME today).

So here goes:
Rank 1: Private.
Rank 2: -
Rank 3: Support Fighter
Rank 4: (faction) Fighter
Rank 5: (Faction) Monk/Avenger
Rank 6: (faction) Destroyer
Rank 7: (Faction) Commander
Rank 8: (faction) General
Rank 9: Dealer of Death
Rank 10: (A top rank of some kind)

Example: (faction) Commander= kami Commander.

Lets discuss this: Bad things, Good things, and what the ranks should be.

These are just a suggestion for some basic ranks/titles.
All of them are just ideas so please keep it civil.
Tiger

I'm not PvP orientated personally, but the system of 'honour' gain sounds very similar to the WOW (a good start reference for any PvP system).
As for convincing the GM's of implementing a system...I think convincing the PLAYERS will be your first task

EDIT - even though I do not PvP in ryzom, I know people like to view how good/bad they are doing with a rank system. I check My Battlefield 2 ranking quite often. *dreams of advancing off the bottom one day*

[grimjim]

Please no.

Perhaps reactivate honour points for PvP killing (Alongside giving faction points for doing Kami/Karavan missions) but titles encourage too much one-upmanship and constant, unceasing fighting as well as the 'schlong comparison' phenomena as well as ganking AFK/diggers.

So would honour points reactivation, but to a lesser extent IMO.

[ydyp1978]

Please no.

Perhaps reactivate honour points for PvP killing (Alongside giving faction points for doing Kami/Karavan missions) but titles encourage too much one-upmanship and constant, unceasing fighting as well as the 'schlong comparison' phenomena as well as ganking AFK/diggers.

So would honour points reactivation, but to a lesser extent IMO.

one solution to the afk/miner killing could be to give only honour points in a honourfull fight: target fights back, you don't attack target with 3v1. (but if the defender successfully kills you all, he should get honour )

And well the ranking system smells to much to WoW, and even there it didn't work out the way it should. *looks to all gankers running around*

[michielb]

I was going to ignore thisd thread in the hopes it would drop off the first page without anyone noticing but I guess I should have known better...

So far PvP in what ever incarnation has brought SoR nothing but grief; heck they even dumbed down the name of the game hoping it'll have more of an appeal to new players! I do not think adding rewards for PvP will be an addition we'd want for ourselves. Turning SoR into a gankathon for 733+ kiddies won't help, Spires will probably do enough damage without an FPS like ranking system...

On a side note: why is it that MMO compagnies still believe PvP is "content everlasting" eventhough past experience has proved otherwise?

[grimjim]

On a side note: why is it that MMO compagnies still believe PvP is "content everlasting" eventhough past experience has proved otherwise?

Because it's relatively cheap and the pros are extremely noisy.
Go look over at MMORPG.com forums, there is a disproportionate number of vocal fans of open, full-looting PvP that don't seem to represent the wider MMO population but seem to be a majority there. I'm trying to work out why this should be so.

[xolghost]

As long as there are no consequences to killing supposedly innocent and as long as there's absolutely nothing to lose by PvP'ing, there is no logic and/or community benefit in adding profit in any way to it. Simple, eh?

[dakhound]

tbh even as a PvP player I wouldnt agree with this

you see it would be so simple for a team of say 3 people to get really cheap points for killing people waiting to dig a supernode or similar things. It would lead to resentment and even more crap on this forum.

the community took enough of a bashing with the implementation of OP's in their current guise. I wouldnt want it to get worse

[greymar]

Please no.

Perhaps reactivate honour points for PvP killing (Alongside giving faction points for doing Kami/Karavan missions) but titles encourage too much one-upmanship and constant, unceasing fighting as well as the 'schlong comparison' phenomena as well as ganking AFK/diggers.

So would honour points reactivation, but to a lesser extent IMO.

/Agree.

'nuff said.

[acridiel]

*sung to the melody of "Let it be" by The Beatles*

When a Company in times of trouble, needs more money presently
some Dev thinks the answer is PvP
And Players geting bored from digging, some of them might think to be
the Über-L337 that RoXXoR
in PvP

PvP, PvP, PvP
Oh PvP
It´s the only answer!!!
PvP!!

And when the broken harted people, playing on this world agree
This is complete Bu***it, it´s PvP
For those that will be be parting from us, just because of PvP
Let me tell you one thing,
I agree!!

PvP, PvP, PvP
Oh PvP
It´s only PvPs fault!!
PvP!!

And maythe roots be full of aggro, there is still some A§§*ole out for me.
comming up behind me, PvP
I look down to the sound of music, on my corpse lying below me
I swear I´m gonna whipe him, next Time
in PvP

PvP, PvP, PvP
Oh PvP.
It´m gonna be a Ganker!!
PvP

Please DON`T take this serious!!

Acridiel