FKC, welcome Melinoe !!!

[aude03]

Congratz Melinoe !!!

The FKC, Fake Karavan Club, will have some new members sunday. Melinoe will pass the first test needed to join us.

For whom who dont know, only 2 steps to join FKC :
* being an official Karavan guild (check your guild fame)
* attacking another official Karavan guild

Attacking Nexus outpost in Loria on sunday 11pm gmt, Melinoe will successfuly pass the test. Once again : Congratz and Welcome Melinoe



oh, starting to hear.....no !! absolutely not the same !!! Melinoe's attack is justified....bla bla bla....Jena....real kara....and bla and bla...

Maybe i should re-explain Nexus stance again...
X Nexus is a Tryker and Karavan guild
X Like Still Wyler and King Yrkanis did to free Loria from Matis, Nexus fought, fight and will fight to free the land from foreign occupation (was only one exception, when KoO attacked LoA because of personal things)

To finish, Melinoes, if you need any info about your new club, feel free to /tell King Yrkanis, co-founder of the club with our beloved Governor Wyler.


ok, flame mode "on", now professional flamers, do your job

[katriell]

There's Kami, Karavan...and Tryker.

Ya'll gone from freedom-loving to outright xenophobic. Jelathnia has the utmost respect for Trykers...she probably is part Tryker. But I find their politics rather amusing. =)

I'm not saying there's no reason to protest Melinoe attacking a "Karavaneer" outpost...it seems pretty crazy. The consequences of attacking Trykers tend to include neutering of Zoraï opposition. They're just at the right level... =S

<DISCLAIMER> This post does not mean to imply: racism (traditional Tryker ideals FTW), factional purism (it's fun to have more complicated politics than just two factions), ill will, hatred, resentment, annoyance, etc. I AM NOT ATTACKING YOU, YOUR LIFESTYLE, YOUR FLOWER-FINDER/CRYSTAL-CATCHER/MAT-MINER, OR YOUR PET CRAY.

[aude03]

Ya'll gone from freedom-loving to outright xenophobic. Jelathnia has the utmost respect for Trykers...she probably is part Tryker. But I find their politics rather amusing. =)

Humm.... seems a bit ecxessive word for me. Tryker history is hardly marked by enslavement and ressources robbering. I think it's a natural and justified feeling to want all the races to be free, and far of an other race imperialism attitude.

[aude03]

I'm not saying there's no reason to protest Melinoe attacking a "Karavaneer" outpost...it seems pretty crazy.

I'm not protesting

<DISCLAIMER> This post does not mean to imply: racism (traditional Tryker ideals FTW), factional purism (it's fun to have more complicated politics than just two factions), ill will, hatred, resentment, annoyance, etc. I AM NOT ATTACKING YOU, YOUR LIFESTYLE, YOUR FLOWER-FINDER/CRYSTAL-CATCHER/MAT-MINER, OR YOUR PET CRAY.

Oh, no need to edit your first answer with that....at least for me

[rothimar]

Two groups can both follow the same ideology and yet have absolute distaste for each other. The conflict between the two doesn't devaluate the beliefs of either group except in the eyes of the other.

The desire to slander the name of an opposing group is the very essense of politics. Too bad it wasn't done "in character". It would have been more entertaining, and less "flamy".

[raven41]

La La La... Huh? whats this thread? *opens* *reads* *laughs* I will be there if I can Nexus! *sings a song about saving Trykies*

[iphdrunk]

For whom who dont know, only 2 steps to join FKC :
* being an official Karavan guild (check your guild fame)
* attacking another official Karavan guild

Well, personally I must admit I was a bit shocked to see Nexus during the last op fighting -- Nexus is (iirc) a Kara guild, attacking Pegasus Foundation (if my memory helps), a Kara guild --, as per your definition, you blame Mel of being what you are?
You can justify it as you want (maybe the "reason" in Nexus attacking, a "noble" act, willing to allow zorai homins to own zorai ops?, maybe then we can have a peaceful Atys... or not?), but the fact is that previous to this, there was no public flaming, no pointing fingers.

I see this post as a simple flaming/trolling post, and I am guilty as charged of throwing in more wood, but I see little reason to post in forums that your outpost is being attacked, even less with this aggressive wording. What's the point of this thread? to gather help? to "name and shame"?

As far as I know, one of the main reasons outposts are in game is to be fought over, and I am starting to care not about the reason one may have to declare on another one, be in a FvF setting or in a GvG setting. One of the things I don't like in current ops is the static nature of things as they are -- even new players wonder if they will someday be able to get one --

Rather than complaining about "someone wants my toy", just think of the amount of players that cannot benefit from them, or that may need to beg for the goods they produce, while owners can sit on their hands and have a background job filling their halls.

The desire to slander the name of an opposing group is the very essense of politics. Too bad it wasn't done "in character". It would have been more entertaining, and less "flamy"

Agreed. Give a IC reason, post it in "Saga" and let's all enjoy the complicated politics beyond the simplistic bipolar conflict.
Sorry if I sound ranty, but there are other issues with outposts.

[toramo1]

Sorry but what about our OP battles in the Fyros last week , the nexus (karaguild) have help us (loA) or have help kami??
thx in advance for answer

[dollly]

so we are fake karavaneers now.......any guild that fights on the kami side weather they be kara or kami will be classified as such... the "enemy"








dollydagger current GL of Melinoe

[lienem]

I see this post as a simple flaming/trolling post, and I am guilty as charged of throwing in more wood, but I see little reason to post in forums that your outpost is being attacked, even less with this aggressive wording. What's the point of this thread? to gather help? to "name and shame"?

I might be off the mark, but apart from publicizing the date and time of the outpost attack, I do think that geniastrid was going for a bit of sarcasm. As her last words point, "professional flamers do your job", I doubt she was really looking to stir "trouble" . Then again, maybe I'm naïve.
And toramo1, I believe your question was answered when Genia states that they didn't help LoA for personal reasons .