High-End Melee?

[yorgl]

Thanks to everyone for the advice on this. After a couple days of really pondering it, I decided to go full bore into dual wielding. As expected Close Combat is falling behind, but it's something I can work on later. I'm going to experiment with soloing dual daggers, just to keep them up abit since 1 handed goes up faster. I've also joined a guild (Mystic Knights Of Atys) full of simply wonderful people, and they dont care if Im a "gimp" or not. In fact, I seem to do pretty well, even if most of them have their 2handed melee well over my 1handed melee. Even getting comments on how quickly I do damage. No, I dont expect to do the kind of damage that 2 handers do (I'll probably always envy it though) but I also know that I'm having more fun doing what I'm doing than I would if I was going 2handed. For me this is a big deal, as I'm a recovering min/maxer and would have just automatically taking the 2handed approach in the past.
Kinda irks me that the dagger speed bug I have heard about still exsists (is there anyway to get around this, slower daggers?), and that I dont get a +to parry with 2 weapons, but I'll live with it. I'm having too much fun to let it bother me.

Edit: If anyone sees a Zorai over in Pyre with Fryos Heavy Arrmor ,Sword and Knife named Hellgeist, he isnt nuts.

It's just me.

[vguerin]

I've also joined a guild (Mystic Knights Of Atys) full of simply wonderful people, and they dont care if Im a "gimp" or not. In fact, I seem to do pretty well, even if most of them have their 2handed melee well over my 1handed melee.

It's just me.

Congratz... anytime they call your build gimped, send them to me, Rushin, Sehraci or a few others...

It's good to hear your doing what ya want, not what someone says is best !

[yorgl]

Actually they have been rather impressed with it. I dont do as much damage and I miss alot, but then again, Im usually the lowest meleer out there too. But I do hit, and I do manage to pull aggro away from people almost 40 lvls higher than me with regularity (against stuff almost 2x my highest skill lvl). Sometimes I watch their damage pour in and feel pretty worthless, but that is more fighting something that is lvl 148 when my 1hander is at 82 and my CC is at 71. Crafting question now. What is the slowest dagger that can be made? I've heard it's speed was capped at 36 attacks/min, no matter how fast it is supposed to attack.

[iphdrunk]

What is the slowest dagger that can be made? I've heard it's speed was capped at 36 attacks/min, no matter how fast it is supposed to attack.

Yes, the speed is capped to 35-36 iirc. Unofficial, rumored reasons seem to point at the animations being the cause, but it is not clear, nor acknowledged( it may simply be a server limitation). With regard to the slowest daggers I have not tried actually (shoud try with basic mats with 0 speed stat, it's usually linear, with a max 100 (unboosted) of 60, I'd say 20+ should be trivial to get.

That said, the fastest daggers are 66 hpm, with a damage for a q250 of 148-151 iirc. current cap is almost half the speed they are supposed to be, and although one may need to tweak the attack actions to avoid draining hp and stam too fast, I wish this "feature" was fixed. Maybe the code as is now can't cope with such as speed (timers, etc.) but even in that case, I would accept a "fake" effect of hitting 2 times (or 4 dual wielding) per "round" where the "round" is the comon, 1 hit only 30+ actual speed.

That said, dual daggers may not be the "best" combo ever, but sure it is one of the funniest and getting Rashan dappers at Sams knife fights was cool!

[rushin]

has anyone tested max speed 1h swords out of interest? it's been bugging me, if you can excuse the pun, that they might be capped at same level as daggers..

[sehracii]

has anyone tested max speed 1h swords out of interest? it's been bugging me, if you can excuse the pun, that they might be capped at same level as daggers..

It was tested, but it's very very difficult to know your measurement is accurate enough to tell the difference between 36 and 39.

It *seemed* that all weapons came out slightly slower then what they read- max 1H 36-38, max 2H sword about 29. But nothing substantial enough to be concerned over except the daggers. (Test done by a few different people with different computers and connection speeds, etc, seemed approximately the same)

As a note- max pistol with appropriate increase firing rate actually does come out about 58-60hpm, the game can handle that. That makes pistol the fastest attack in Ryzom.

[yorgl]

Wasn't planning ong going dual daggers primarily, jsut for those occations when I want to rais that skill to keep it up with 1-hander. I plan on going 1hand sword/dagger as my primary attack. But if that is the case with daggers being speed capped, I'll need to start looking for the slowest ones I can find. I'll look you up ingame Sehracii and talk with you more about this.

[sehracii]

The way I look at it, completely ignore the speed stat on daggers. Doesn't do anything.

Oh, and turn your Private Messages on for this forum

[yorgl]

Done
Ok, I"ll just look for the hardest hitting ones I can find then.