GoJ - Gu-Qin Workshop

[thlau]

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To prove it I post this screenie here. http://red-io.ru/forum/index.php?action ... =204;image

I think this screenie proves nothing, as there is no screenie visible.

[katriell]

To prove it I post this screenie here. http://red-io.ru/forum/index.php?action ... =204;image

Just use imageshack...

[kayak]

ok to clear a few things up since i can't acccess the screenie but i knwo which OP battle you were refering to......

a while back the karavan alliance attacked our freinds the soul in flaming forest. nillian was away and i decided to turn up to help defend. from this post i must have missunderstood the terms..

Sure can They will remnain on the list as long as they do not attack the karavan alliance at outpost fights

edit: done

i have never or never will join an attack against any outpost be it kami karavan or neutral and neither will any member of my guild.

we will however defend our freinds. i have defended karavan owned op's in the past (order of the namelass and pegasus foundation) aswell as neutral (samsara) and kami (soul) and i will even defend your OP if it is ever attacked. i do not look at faction when making my freinds. from what was written above it was unclear as to what i was able to do
please pm me ingame and we can sit down and discuss options. if need be i'm happy to resign leadership to nillian and go solo so that the insomniacs can be put back on the list.

[totnkopf]

i have never or never will join an attack against any outpost be it kami karavan or neutral and neither will any member of my guild.

Touché!!!!

[aardnebb]

Heh yes, certain members of the KA have been horrified that people are willing to kill poor innocent attacking KA in defence of their friends...

We got the same kinda abuse for fighting defensively before selling our OP. See, its not just enough that you not attack the KA, you aren't allowed to defend yourself or your friends at all, or you automatically become the worst kind of Karavan bashing Kami fanatic...

meh, I shouldnt post at this time in the morning. It makes me twitchier than usual.

EDIT: to clarify, this abuse was not from _ALL_ KA, just a certain vocal minority. We all know the ones I am sure.

[thlau]

To prove it I post this screenie here. http://red-io.ru/forum/index.php?action ... attach=203

The new url doesn't show the screenie either, Kommisar.
If you want to prove anything, don't force us to register to your forum. All I get is a forum login page (I think it is a login page, as I can't read cyrillic letters)

[5c0rp]

tbh i think that you would be better off talking to GoJ in game han posting here on the forums and from the wording of the agreement it does indeed say attack and does not refer to the defense of friends.

[komissar]

Hmm sorry I didn't realise the picture will be invisible on that source...

Try here http://pechalno-kogda.pisem.net/screenshot000.jpg

And in the beginning of the thread it was written: "Please sign in if you are kara, neutral or even kami not actively fighting against kara."

It didn't say attack or defense. It said "fighting against".

However you still gotta discuss it with GoJ since it's their op after all...

[thlau]

In my opinion the goal of Kommisar was to public annonce that the Karavan Alliance now considers the guild Insomniacs enemy. I for my part am not suprised about such kind of action, since this is how I experienced the Karavan Alliance does politics. Maybe the Guardians of Jena should do the negotiations themselves, and should not use an advocat of the Order of the Nameless.

Trini

[ghyselsj]

And maybe you should stop assuming things, since the KA has no official spokesman, and does not make public announcements.

Now let's do as Exisstenz asked, and keep this thread clear of any discussions. Take it to PM's or another thread if you like.

Greets,