R2 - 2nd Conference result

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R2 - 2nd Conference result

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1. It was proposed that those interested form a sort of 'Gamesmaster collective' for R2 and interlink some scenarios and outlands. Pretty much everyone agreed that this was a cool idea.

2. The general consensus seemed to be that we need more info on the tools than has been released thus far and we can't wait to get our mitts on the chance to test it all.

*Any chance of an update Nevrax/Guides?*

3. With some concerns about bumping up against canonical storyline we wondered if scenarios will be tested for canon as well as mechanical exploits. Some suggestions were made how to bypass this.
a) Not to use stuff that could bump up against canon so much (NPCs, Kami/Karavan - assuming we have access to them etc).
b) To set our stories away from the main lands in new settlements or distant colonies/tribal lands so that they could have their own stories.
c) To have an internal 'checking group' to the scenario makers who could offer helpful suggestions on lore and canon problems based on long term player knowledge.

4. Concern was raised about the multiserver access to scenarios. The language problems particularly worried some people - notably english speakers who by and large don't know other languages :) There was also concern about differing playstyles on different servers and different interpretations of the lore.

Before any real long term planning can be made it was felt we need to know more and we'd like more info plllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeease! :)

This thread to be used by people interested to present and discuss potential R2 ideas/scenarios/campaigns/interlinked areas.

Thanks to all who attended, even if most didn't say anything :)
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Thank you for posting the topics of discussion. I had every intention to attend but because today is mother’s day in the US I was unable due to RL engagements.



Jyudas said: This thread to be used by people interested to present and discuss potential R2 ideas/scenarios/campaigns/interlinked areas.



Though I applaud the idea it is a difficult one since most of us do not know much on how easy R2 will be to use. I for one have no knowledge of the tools and how to use them, it sounds very easy from what has been posted but I am sure it takes time and dedication to make it work as one would like. However, I am looking forward to getting my hands on the tools.

As for ideas and scenarios I think I have already been covering that with my stories. Obviously Aliyah leader of the Sirens of Atys, and Goldy member of the Raiders of the Sage, is the characters that will be controlling my lands. I would love to have more players involve and roleplay plus add their ideas to the developing story. But from what I learn from my last event is that most ppl in game do not read the forums.

It would be awesome to see more stories written by the players and to be able to roleplay in some small part. To flesh them out, that is the point of roleplaying. I would like to see more participation from the RP community. That is what I hope R2 will offer us.

This is the first step and I thank you for taking the initiative to organize the meeting. I am sorry that I was not able to attend. Perhaps now more ppl will speak up since there seems to be a desire to make R2 work for the RP community and the game. I am very interested in presenting ideas and scenarios etc. Count me in.
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Interestingly we on Leanon had a rather similar Idea. :)
As those who speak german my see in this thread :
http://www.ryzom.de/forum/showthread.php?t=22739
(please ignore the silly spam in some posts :D )

We´d surely be interested in working with you and your R² Szenario Builders.
Ans as those are rather bulky words I came up with a striking and cool shortcut:
R²D² = RyromRingDramaDesigners. ;) :D
I´ve allready saved the domain http://www.ryzomringdrama.de for this project. The Link still points to my original site, but as soon as I find the time I´ll put up a Forum to Discuss ideas :)
(As you surely can imagine r2d2, rrdd, and others have allready been saved by Lukasarts :D *sigh* )

International cooperation would be a blast!!!
And just as a sidenote, more Germans tend to speak english then vice versa, so we´ll be able to get in touch with you ;)

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grimjim wrote:This thread to be used by people interested to present and discuss potential R2 ideas/scenarios/campaigns/interlinked areas.
I'll be back to steal some ideas then :D
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Thanks for the link Acridiel :)
I see you guys also have a wish to try to expand the Lore. Alas, we all know that some rites are broken, and in effect our search for knowledge and wisdom is somewhat hampered.

Personally, I wish to know more about our world - our history. To this end I have been working on a paper of the History of MoV and it's members. So far I have been limited to my own personal knowledge.

What I would like to suggest as part of a possible scenario are:

To create a place of knowledge, a place where guilds history are told.
And also tales of past events, f.ex. the kitin invasions, the homin effort to open the tunnel between the jungle and the desert..

To succeed we will need info from the older players. And in return they might gain some fame among the homins that entered Atys long after.

If such a scenario can be done, and it becomes permanent, it may help us all to feel like important parts of the ongoing story.
I can also vision it being expanded in time to allow for recent events as they play out.

This is big I know, but I would love to be a part of such a project

I also would like to express my gratitude to Jyudas, for without his thoughts on a co-operative 'Gamesmaster collective', I would never dreamed as big as this.
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My conception is of the following.

A campaign to establish a safe haven, away from the fighting, a neutral land where the homin still work together.

Of course, I don't expect the tools to allow us city designing capability for some time - if ever - but camps and new lands can certainly be covered.

There's plenty of story there.

* Preparation.
* Travelling to the new lands.
* Taming the new lands.
* Building the settlements and camps.
* Dealing with the tribes etc who may not take to the new settlers.

The idea being there would be scenarios and RP that might later affect the more permanent areas people might have purchased and hosted with Nevrax, hopefully some passing muster to be 'real' areas with neutral players confederalising to make these lands their 'new home' with people opting in.
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Ok dam it J, now i'm all excited over R2 again!

.. what if we were able to load previous scenarios (a current town) and edit them? ..oo that would make new-world building much easier :)

and the billion and a half mobs and tribes thatll stand in the way of 'this is where you are now.. this is where you gotta end up' travels! it'll be just like re-digging tunnels to the different lands!
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grimjim wrote:My conception is of the following.

A campaign to establish a safe haven, away from the fighting, a neutral land where the homin still work together.

Of course, I don't expect the tools to allow us city designing capability for some time - if ever - but camps and new lands can certainly be covered.

There's plenty of story there.

* Preparation.
* Travelling to the new lands.
* Taming the new lands.
* Building the settlements and camps.
* Dealing with the tribes etc who may not take to the new settlers.

The idea being there would be scenarios and RP that might later affect the more permanent areas people might have purchased and hosted with Nevrax, hopefully some passing muster to be 'real' areas with neutral players confederalising to make these lands their 'new home' with people opting in.

Fantastic Idea Jyudas, but how, if these Campaings ans the resulting lands get an official "Go" from Nevrax and are made public, do you keep out those you flee before?
How do the neutrals keep out those who come to conquer?
By War?
By Borderposts?
I think that bears consideration too.

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grimjim wrote:Before any real long term planning can be made it was felt we need to know more and we'd like more info plllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeease! :)
No problem - ask your questions here and I'll try to answer you (if there is an answer, not everything is set in stone yet). Even if I wrote a 30 pages long document about the Ring, there would probably still be questions left unanswered, :) so it will probably be more efficient this way.

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*pounces on Xavier*

I got `im!! I got `im!!! Come and state your questions before he gets away :D

Hehehehe, allrightythen:

1. We know that there´ll be no customisable Maps in the first R² Edition. Fine with me to a certain degree. When will we be able to create our own?

2. Will we then be able to crate canopy branches? My dream environment.

3. Will we be able to connect the newly made Outlands to for example the empty Gates in the Guildhomes? That would be a treat! :)

4. Will we be able to plant plants and grass in the outlands? For example greating a grassy steppe, where the Torbaks hide in the tall grass *eG*

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